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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    Taggart wasn't going to make the difference in our front court if Wayne would have still been there the next year. He was a player that was going to always get abused in the Big 12. The guy never impressed me at Memphis either.



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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    Quote Originally Posted by CyArob View Post
    McDermott was in way over his head at ISU.
    I actually don't think he was. He knew exactly what he wanted to do to build the program. But that style just didn't fit in the Big 12 nor fit the players he recruited.



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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    I think McDermott's style could have worked, but the personnel never seem to fit or be talented enough outside of a few starters.



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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    I think McDermott's style could have worked, but the personnel never seem to fit or be talented enough outside of a few starters.
    IMO, you are 100% backwards on this. Greg recruited fine and had solid talent in all but his first season. His system and player relations were his problem. Which is funny to think about, because when he was hired the concern was that while he was a great coach, could he recruit?



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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    IMO, you are 100% backwards on this. Greg recruited fine and had solid talent in all but his first season. His system and player relations were his problem. Which is funny to think about, because when he was hired the concern was that while he was a great coach, could he recruit?

    Actually it seemed like TJ could get them to campus and once they figured out who they were playing for they jumped ship.



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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    Ouch....Yeah running a slow offense is painful to watch and no fun.



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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    He didn't have "solid talent".

    If that gets repeated enough maybe someday it will be seen as truth.



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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    Tim Floyd slowed it down and won...Gregg was a my way or the highway kinda guy. Having been recruited by him at Wayne State I can tell you his system only fits good ol boys like Gary Thompson. Being a Morgan supporter is hard when a certain sector (high dollar donors) want him ran out the door because he couldn't pander to their egos. Don't get me started on the fans and 'columnists'who would write about Wayne letting the "inmates run the asylum". That crowd can go eat a honey wagon full of poo. If their favorite golfer was streaky they'd pander the hell out of them.



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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    IMO, you are 100% backwards on this. Greg recruited fine and had solid talent in all but his first season. His system and player relations were his problem. Which is funny to think about, because when he was hired the concern was that while he was a great coach, could he recruit?
    But it's odd, because if you follow him and his team now, seems to be VERY team orientated, loved by players, etc. Overall, just a different style/fit at Creighton and not at ISU. He is a good coach...but it is coaching. As a friend reminded me, remember Diante would be looking at the sideline all the time because he was coaching from the sideline..with CFH, the coaching is more during time outs, small adjustments and letting the players flow.

    McD is a great person/man. it just didn't work out here and he's found success elsewhere and was part of the flow of things happening to get CFH. It happens.



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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    IMO, you are 100% backwards on this. Greg recruited fine and had solid talent in all but his first season. His system and player relations were his problem. Which is funny to think about, because when he was hired the concern was that while he was a great coach, could he recruit?
    I disagree. We would have 3-4 solid starters, but after that there wasn't much. When you are playing guys like Bryan Peterson, Sean Haluska, etc. for 25+ minutes a game and starting, you have an issue with talent and depth. His last team was easily the most talented though.



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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rural View Post
    He didn't have "solid talent".

    If that gets repeated enough maybe someday it will be seen as truth.
    Lol, sure he didn't.

    Mike Taylor - second round pick
    Wes Johnson - #3 pick
    Craig Brackins - first round pick
    Diante Garrett - FA, second year NBA now
    Justin Hamilton - second rounder

    Jiri Hubalek - Euro Pro
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    His last team was

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    Gilstrap
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    Bench:
    Scott Christopherson
    Jamie Vanderbeken
    Laron Dendy
    Chris Colvin

    Explain to me how a team with 3 future NBA players and a bench with 3 4 star players plus a 6-11 3 point shooter is not solid talent. IMO, Fred takes that team to at least the sweet 16.



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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    Lol, sure he didn't.

    Mike Taylor - second round pick
    Wes Johnson - #3 pick
    Craig Brackins - first round pick
    Diante Garrett - FA, second year NBA now
    Justin Hamilton - second rounder

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    His last team was

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    Gilstrap
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    Bench:
    Scott Christopherson
    Jamie Vanderbeken
    Laron Dendy
    Chris Colvin

    Explain to me how a team with 3 future NBA players and a bench with 3 4 star players plus a 6-11 3 point shooter is not solid talent. IMO, Fred takes that team to at least the sweet 16.
    His last team definitely should have made the tourney. That season was a huge fail. Also, spread over 4 years, Hoiberg has more than 8 playing pro basketball somewhere.


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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    I think the bigger issue was Pollard. McDermott had been around long enough to know his style of basketball. He played slow, grind-it-out, defensive focused basketball at UNI, and there wasn't any reason to think he'd change that. We were, of course, coming from Wayne Morgan who could not be any different in his approach. We had one coach micro-managing every movement on the floor, and we had a former coach whose philosophy appeared to be roll the balls out and let the boys play. Not necessarily saying one approach is better than the other, but it wasn't hard to forecast a disaster when you take a bunch of players brought into run-and-gun, changed systems and mixed them with the Ross Marsden, Jiri and Brian Peterson's of the World. To me, it would be like Fred leaving and hiring Bob Huggins and expecting our current roster of versatile, athletic, shooters to be play defensive minded, grind-it-out basketball.

    In all, it was just a very poorly thought out plan.



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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    What is he doing now? I thought he'd find somewhere to coach because I thought he had such passion for the game and his style of play matches the style of play that all power conferences use today except the Big 10.

    Loved him him to death. Freak athlete.


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    Re: Rashon Clark comments on McDermott (In honor of his Birthday)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    Seems like confirmation on what many had already suspected. IMO, G-Mac just wasn't prepared to be a head coach at the Power Conference level. And by the time he figured out that his approach wasn't working, it was too late. A fresh start did both parties a world of good.
    I think his biggest problem was that he wasn't willing or able to adapt his system to fit his players. He was hell bent on playing MVC style half court basketball with a team full of athletes. Effing terrible.


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