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    Seem fishy to anyone else?

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ys-apr-penalty

    "The university announced Tuesday that the NCAA has lifted the Cowboys' Academic Progress Rate penalty after school officials discovered the recent graduation of a football player from the 1990s. The addition of the delayed graduation pushed Oklahoma State above the NCAA's minimum standard rate of 930.

    Oklahoma State did not release the identity of the graduated former player."

    something stinks... at least they had only lost practice time so it is small in the big picture but still... fishy



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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    Is such a thing even possible?



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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    I'm guessing the player in question doesn't even know he graduated (or didn't until he got his diploma and a zero balance tuition bill in the mail). Even odds says OkSU went back through old academic status reports, found some guy who was within a summer of graduating, administratively re-enrolled him, CLEP'ed him through the necessary credits, and viola, extra graduate.



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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    Well that worked out well for everybody



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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    I think Okie State would have to be stupid to risk getting in trouble for something else. It's probably legit.



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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    All this shows is that the NCAA IS A JOKE and everyone knows it. Except those collecting six figure pay checks from them. I thought that this supposed rule looked at the last 5 years of graduation so someone from the 1990's would make no difference.



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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    Sounds like they're going to be a pretty good team.


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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by CornFedIABoy View Post
    I'm guessing the player in question doesn't even know he graduated (or didn't until he got his diploma and a zero balance tuition bill in the mail). Even odds says OkSU went back through old academic status reports, found some guy who was within a summer of graduating, administratively re-enrolled him, CLEP'ed him through the necessary credits, and viola, extra graduate.
    You seem eerily familiar with the process...


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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    You seem eerily familiar with the process...
    he better email his resume to Pollard



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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    Are we sure it was a graduating player who actually played in the 90's and wasn't just a player who was eligible to play in the 90's? Because Brandon Weeden fits that bill.


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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    This gets through but Jameel McKay's waiver is denied. The NCAA sucks.


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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    That is a terrible loophole that you can count athletes from a decade ago. One of the blue blood MBB programs (Carolina or Kentucky, can
    t remember) was hiding behind that a couple of years ago. They were having players "graduate" many years after playing time was over. I can see giving an athlete a year or two to finish but that is about it.



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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by intrepid27 View Post
    That is a terrible loophole that you can count athletes from a decade ago. One of the blue blood MBB programs (Carolina or Kentucky, can
    t remember) was hiding behind that a couple of years ago. They were having players "graduate" many years after playing time was over. I can see giving an athlete a year or two to finish but that is about it.
    Former players should always have an open door to come back and graduate, within the same rules as other non-traditional students, but it shouldn't count toward current program eligibility.



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    Re: Seem fishy to anyone else?

    From the NCAA Bylaws;

    Beginning fall 2007, the APR was based on four years of data for most institutions (i.e., 2003-04,

    2004-05, 2005-06 and 2006-07). Every year thereafter, the most current year's data will be added and the oldest year of data will be removed, creating a four-year rolling rate.


    Rate Conversion for Final APR–Semester Schools

    Translating the scores from decimals to whole numbers aids in the understanding and

    interpretability of scores. This translation does not alter the meaning of the scores; rather, it puts
    the scores in terms that are more understandable.
    In order to achieve final APR for semester schools, raw APR are multiplied by 1,000.

    Example:
    Raw APR of .97 x 1,000 = 970 final APR

    Multiyear APR

    The APR is comprised of four years of APR data, resulting in a multiyear rate. Each year, the

    most current year's data will be added and the oldest year of data will be removed, creating a four-year rolling rate. The APR is used to demonstrate academic performance of all Division I teams. In addition, it is used to determine what teams are subject to penalties and rewards within the APP structure. The APR also serves as a point of academic access to postseason competition.

    (Revised:10/11; Effective: 10/11)

    Not sure how Okie lite can get this kind of ruling based on the above bylaw excerpt.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CyArob View Post
    Is such a thing even possible?



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