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    Pleasant Valley girls track

    Just saw this today. Pleasant Valley was stripped of the Class 4A girls track title a few days ago due to the participation of an ineligible athlete who was involved in 38 team points at the state meet. The athlete (junior middle distance star Kaley Ciluffo) was discovered to have competed in multiple collegiate invitationals against college athletes, which is illegal for high school athletes in Iowa (she did place first or second in those races, FTR; she's one of the very best middle distance runners in the country). She even allegedly registered at an event under her mother's maiden name, presumably to avoid getting caught.

    Urbandale finished second at state and will be retroactively named state champions, and all place-winners in the events Ciluffo competed in will be adjusted accordingly.

    Pretty huge deal, and something I've never even heard of being done in Iowa. Definitely feel bad for the girls on the relays she ran on. Several athletes from other schools have expressed similar sentiments and Linn-Mar's Stephanie Jenks, who finished second to Ciluffo in the 800 (Ciluffo ran an all-time best mark in that event at state that will be erased now), said she would have preferred to earn the gold medal rather than get it this way.

    Has anyone else ever heard of a situation like this in Iowa? I've known of people who trained with friends after those friends went on to compete collegiately, but never an athlete competing against college athletes in college-sanctioned events. That's just crazy.


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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    I heard about this too. I do feel bad for the other runners on the PV team, but not for the girl who broke the rules. She definitely knew what she was doing was wrong. I didn't know this piece of the story:

    Quote Originally Posted by tm3308 View Post
    She even allegedly registered at an event under her mother's maiden name, presumably to avoid getting caught.
    But that goes even further to prove that she was trying to break the rules and not get caught. Regardless of what you think about the rule itself, it was selfish of her to jeopardize her team in that way.

    With that said, if I found myself in that situation on the PV team, I don't think this would change anything. We won the title, we were recognized for it, we had our celebration. At this point, I would still call myself a state champion and no one would be able to take that away from me. I hope that the rest of the girls on the team have that mindset too because this could be hard on them.



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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    Our high school associations seem to be *** backwards on rules. Since she is a junior, maybe there were other ways to punish her and not the team?


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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU42 View Post
    Our high school associations seem to be *** backwards on rules. Since she is a junior, maybe there were other ways to punish her and not the team?
    I don't see how you let the victories stand when she was ineligible to compete.


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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU42 View Post
    Our high school associations seem to be *** backwards on rules. Since she is a junior, maybe there were other ways to punish her and not the team?
    I'm pretty sure that she is ineligible for high school competition permanently at this point, so she won't be able to run for any high school team or in a high school event next year too. She was punished as much as possible and it ended up hurting her team because of the choices that she​ made.


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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU42 View Post
    Our high school associations seem to be *** backwards on rules. Since she is a junior, maybe there were other ways to punish her and not the team?
    The team only won because of her points. Not taking them away would be unfair to other teams.


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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    First I thought this thread was going to be stalkerish, but having read the above. She needs to do all she can to graduate asap and move onto college. No senior year now.


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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    Well, we can't have amateur athletes competing in other amateur events can we?

    It does actually get a little complicated. We have had red-shirt runners compete in events but not running "for" ISU. They run "unattached".



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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    My question, why is that against the rules? Seems silly to punish athletes for seeking out better competition. I can understand the not training with college teams part but merely running independently in meets seems like a reasonable thing to be able to do.



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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    I shudder to think about how competitive HS sports are getting, my kids are screwed.



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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    Well if they just paid high school athletes.... But serioiusly, this is such a simple rule to abide by, this girl deserves what she's getting. T



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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    Quote Originally Posted by Iastfan112 View Post
    My question, why is that against the rules? Seems silly to punish athletes for seeking out better competition. I can understand the not training with college teams part but merely running independently in meets seems like a reasonable thing to be able to do.
    You get used to running against other athletes that can actually push you to your limits. Let's just say running at the (insert small town here) invitational against three girls who went out for track so they'd look better in their prom dress is a little different venue. If the girl that got second had to that all spring vs. going to college level meets they came into start with drastically different racing experience.

    Not saying it would've matter in this case, but it's a big deal for HS kids that only get a few dozen races each spring.



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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    Here's a little bit better coverage on this with some detail and less of the innuendo about what names she used to run under. Interesting is that the gal she beat in the Drake Relays is ineligible for cross-country this fall because she "knowingly faced collegiate athletes last fall." If the rules for running clubs applied to AAU basketball there would be no high school basketball at all.

    http://qctimes.com/sports/high-schoo...2f0762761.html



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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    Quote Originally Posted by Iastfan112 View Post
    My question, why is that against the rules? Seems silly to punish athletes for seeking out better competition. I can understand the not training with college teams part but merely running independently in meets seems like a reasonable thing to be able to do.
    Maybe its changed since my day...but you used to be able to compete in other events and maintain your elibility as long as it that sport wasn't in season. For instance, high school kids can play in the summer basketball leagues, hoop it up etc bc that sport isn't in season. We actually had an issue with this when I was in school regarding "Air It Out" the flag football cousin of hoop it up, it was in the fall, so you couldn't compete in that and be on your schools football team as well. Year round club sports can also impact this.



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    Re: Pleasant Valley girls track

    Quote Originally Posted by BoxsterCy View Post
    Here's a little bit better coverage on this with some detail and less of the innuendo about what names she used to run under. Interesting is that the gal she beat in the Drake Relays is ineligible for cross-country this fall because she "knowingly faced collegiate athletes last fall." If the rules for running clubs applied to AAU basketball there would be no high school basketball at all.

    http://qctimes.com/sports/high-schoo...2f0762761.html
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