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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    You are right, I haven't played DL. But please inform me of a position on the team that has a lesser learning curve than DL, besides kicker or punter?

    Everything I've been told by coaches I know is that the DL has the fastest learning curve of any position.
    Rhoads's past comments on the subject are worth remembering - the further away that you line up to the ball, the easier it is to contribute at a younger age.

    Thus positions such as center, guard, interior DL, QB, and MLB require the most experience to master. WR & CB are probably the easiest to play at a young age. It makes sense when you consider that there are more complex reads to deal with as you get closer to the ball. OT, for example, has simpler reads than either C or OG. The same comparison applies to safety compared to CB and DE compared to DT.

    All positions require an incoming player to have the physical talent to compete at the D1 level. The positions closer to the ball have the added challenge of requiring more to master mentally.



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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Rhoads's past comments on the subject are worth remembering - the further away that you line up to the ball, the easier it is to contribute at a younger age.

    Thus positions such as center, guard, interior DL, QB, and MLB require the most experience to master. WR & CB are probably the easiest to play at a young age. It makes sense when you consider that there are more complex reads to deal with as you get closer to the ball. OT, for example, has simpler reads than either C or OG. The same comparison applies to safety compared to CB and DE compared to DT.

    All positions require an incoming player to have the physical talent to compete at the D1 level. The positions closer to the ball have the added challenge of requiring more to master mentally.
    I agree with that on offense, but not defense. I'd say linebacker and safety are probably the most difficult positions to learn on defense. Defensive end might even be more difficult than tackle. It is crucial to have good technique but for the position all you really need to understand is what gap to crash and reading if the offensive lineman are pass or run blocking.



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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    I don't know. Clinkscales decommitted from Nebraska likely because he wasn't going to get in there. Word is that he took 30 credits this spring and early summer at JUCO and is now eligible at KSU. I doubt that he would have gotten in anywhere except for KSU or KU.
    That may be due to reciprocity between a Kansas JUCO and in state schools. Which makes alot of sense.

    Fact remains, Snyder is a genius and does his homework as well as anyone. KSU is a very good academic institution.



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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    Quote Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey View Post
    Meanwhile, KSU's 15 annual juco transfers all make it and qualify with no problems. Frustrating.
    Again, KSU> ISU. Snyder> PR

    I know its not what you want to hear but KSU is a more desirable fit and Snyder does his homework on players.



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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    Oh I see summer school let out for the day.


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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    Quote Originally Posted by Cy Hard View Post
    Oh I see summer school let out for the day.
    Its 1:30, the "lunch rush" is over at McDonalds.



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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    I thought moore decided to rejoin the team as a walk on? Is that no longer the case?



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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    Quote Originally Posted by Cychotiic View Post
    I thought moore decided to rejoin the team as a walk on? Is that no longer the case?
    It appears that he is not on the team, so that is no longer the case.



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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrocksmypants View Post
    I agree with that on offense, but not defense. I'd say linebacker and safety are probably the most difficult positions to learn on defense. Defensive end might even be more difficult than tackle. It is crucial to have good technique but for the position all you really need to understand is what gap to crash and reading if the offensive lineman are pass or run blocking.
    If an interior DL only focuses on crashing a gap, most offenses can easily exploit that tendency. The DT's/NT's also have to deal with blocks coming from either direction, double teams, traps, midline options, and keeping the OL off the LB's. Not to mention reading screens in addition to collapsing the pass pocket while maintaining their pass rush containment lane. They also have less time to react to what is coming at them than any other defender which is why the instincts that only come with experience are so critical.



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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    Quote Originally Posted by Cychotiic View Post
    I thought moore decided to rejoin the team as a walk on? Is that no longer the case?
    As I understand it, he had some hurdles to clear, probably academics from leaving midterm. I'd guess that didn't work out.




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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    If an interior DL only focuses on crashing a gap, most offenses can easily exploit that tendency. The DT's/NT's also have to deal with blocks coming from either direction, double teams, traps, midline options, and keeping the OL off the LB's. Not to mention reading screens in addition to collapsing the pass pocket while maintaining their pass rush containment lane. They also have less time to react to what is coming at them than any other defender which is why the instincts that only come with experience are so critical.
    Most of what you stated comes with crashing a gap. It's all fine and dandy about worrying if there's a double team, trap, etc. but that doesn't meant you still don't go to your gap. Your main job as a defensive tackle is to eat up offensive lineman.



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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    If an interior DL only focuses on crashing a gap, most offenses can easily exploit that tendency. The DT's/NT's also have to deal with blocks coming from either direction, double teams, traps, midline options, and keeping the OL off the LB's. Not to mention reading screens in addition to collapsing the pass pocket while maintaining their pass rush containment lane. They also have less time to react to what is coming at them than any other defender which is why the instincts that only come with experience are so critical.
    So we are screwed?


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    Re: Terry Ayeni tears ACL; 2 other JUCO's not yet in Ames

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    So we are screwed?
    Probably in better shape than last year. Brandon Jensen started every game last year at NG and is now listed as a co-starter with Devlyn Cousin there. Which means we have 2 NG's better since one would think that Brandon Jensen is a better player today than he was a year ago.

    At DT, we are pretty raw with RS Freshman Robby Garcia and Pierre Aka backing him up. But both guys have more DT experience than David Irving did last year or even Rodney Coe as they both were DE's.

    Biggest improvement for the defense should be that the offense should be much better. Everyone back and Mangino as OC.

    I am not predicting us to be world beaters on defense. I do think we will be better though.



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