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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU42 View Post
    Why?
    Probably because it'll put the nail in the coffin of the game the way I enjoyed it. I've liked it less and less since all of the massive realignment stuff occurred.



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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    What about the competition will change?

    Money spent on a program doesn't make them a great program. There is a lot of money spent in some programs to get average ok results.

    If you spent Texas money at ISU on football would that make ISU mirror Texas in football. Hell no way more goes on in football than the money. If you put everything equal between Texas and ISU, given the choice what team would players chose to play for?
    Erik will have to correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I think his point is that it only gets worse for schools like ISU (and Iowa) if this goes to P5-only. Like you said (or at least implied), if all things are equal, kids will go to Texas over ISU. But all things aren't equal. ISU is already throwing money at a target they can't hit (to use Erik's phrase), but if the gap keeps getting wider, they're either going to hurt themselves by spending even more, or they'll just have to stop giving a **** and stop trying. Neither option is good, for the school or the fans.


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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    I think people are over reacting. I do miss the old big 12 too and wish we still played Colorado, Nebraska, and missouri primarily because they are mid west states that we share a lot of values and similarities with, not to mention borders with Missouri and Nebraska. But realignment will not ruin college sports imho it will be this pay to play crap. So freaking stupid



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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Quote Originally Posted by cycophagus View Post

    So I am left to wonder, where is all this headed? What impact will it have on the future of the conference? And if the Big 5 makes the break from the FBS, to whom will they turn for leadership?
    Bowlsby had a great talk last year: introducing the concept of a "Division 4" without actually detailing any plans or leadership to explore this as a viable option. He made the Big 12 the flagship conference to drive for change without any real plan in place.

    My guess is another vague statement about change either at the NCAA or Division 4 level without detailing anything, but will generate speculation from major columnists until the season kicks-off.



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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Quote Originally Posted by LivntheCyLife View Post
    I don't know why you think there's less competitive balance now. Things seem much more competitive to me now than the OU/Neb days in the Big 8. I think there's 4 or 5 teams with a chance to win the Big 12 this year.
    you ou could use Neb's peak and ISU's deepest valley as an example of when college football was probably the least balanced



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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Quote Originally Posted by sadam View Post
    I think people are over reacting. I do miss the old big 12 too and wish we still played Colorado, Nebraska, and missouri primarily because they are mid west states that we share a lot of values and similarities with, not to mention borders with Missouri and Nebraska. But realignment will not ruin college sports imho it will be this pay to play crap. So freaking stupid
    if pay to play worked minor league baseball would be on tv as often as college hoops.

    A second tier of football being as popular as college football is 100% due to being linked with major universities. Pay to play advocates ignore that nobody would give a flying crap about sub-nfl play without university affiliation. There would be money to be had but nothing in the same galaxy as college football interest generates.



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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrocksmypants View Post
    Probably because it'll put the nail in the coffin of the game the way I enjoyed it. I've liked it less and less since all of the massive realignment stuff occurred.
    So you've always disliked college football?

    Conferences realigning is nothing new, I can't help but chuckle every time this gets pointed to as to why college football is just now not sitting well with a person. If realignment was the actual issue, shouldn't you have been fed up in the early 00's with the exodus out of the Big East? How about the SWC falling apart with their major names heading to the B12 a few years prior to that?

    College football is constantly changing and moving, always has, always will.



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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Some must have been living with their heads in the sand for quite a while. College football has been about the money for decades. What so you think prompted the creation of the B12 on the first place?

    And the rich get richer? Again, what sport have you been watching for the past 40 years? This is how it always has been. If you ever thought that ISU was going to raise up to be on par with the major football powers then you are fooling yourself. The ceiling of our program is being bowl eligible on a regular basis and occasionally getting 7-8 wins. That is still possible regardless of what the Power 5 do.



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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    College football is bland, scripted, and boring right now. Weak non conference schedules then padded conference schedules to help the big NAMES within the conference. The SEC is the worst offender.

    I echo the group that has been watching fewer games in recent years.


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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Quote Originally Posted by BringBackJohnny View Post
    College football is bland, scripted, and boring right now. Weak non conference schedules then padded conference schedules to help the big NAMES within the conference. The SEC is the worst offender.

    I echo the group that has been watching fewer games in recent years.
    at least a 4 team playoff replacing a two team runs against that trend. The top schools in a conference are more likely to lose to the bottom teams now than in the 80s and early 90s. To me that's when college football was truly the most predictable and unbalanced.



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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    at least a 4 team playoff replacing a two team runs against that trend. The top schools in a conference are more likely to lose to the bottom teams now than in the 80s and early 90s. To me that's when college football was truly the most predictable and unbalanced.
    I am excited for the playoff system. It will not make me watch any more regular season football but I will be more in tune with the post season. I would have liked to see it go to 8 teams but 4 is a start. I hope strength of competition comes into account to improve scheduling.


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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Quote Originally Posted by CYphyllis View Post
    So you've always disliked college football?

    Conferences realigning is nothing new, I can't help but chuckle every time this gets pointed to as to why college football is just now not sitting well with a person. If realignment was the actual issue, shouldn't you have been fed up in the early 00's with the exodus out of the Big East? How about the SWC falling apart with their major names heading to the B12 a few years prior to that?

    College football is constantly changing and moving, always has, always will.
    Yeah, wouldn't we still be part of the Missouri Valley conference?



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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Some people just hate change. As in, change is always bad. It's not.



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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Listening to Bowlsby now. Is it me or is he just boring as hell to listen to? Just monotone no emotion. Also to see the big 12 logo on the podium with the hotel name showing through. Just my take.



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    Re: Commish Bowlsby and What's Next for the "Big 5"

    Quote Originally Posted by BringBackJohnny View Post
    I am excited for the playoff system. It will not make me watch any more regular season football but I will be more in tune with the post season. I would have liked to see it go to 8 teams but 4 is a start. I hope strength of competition comes into account to improve scheduling.
    8 would be perfect, a second loss could still knock out a power conf team and one loss could knock out a mid or minor conf team, but it makes me worry about expanding beyond that. If nothing else the 4 team will soften the perception about the sec, it's the best league, but not deserving of 60% of all title chances.



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