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    Re: Jake McDonough talks about paying players.

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    D-1 football players expose themselves to a high risk of a lifelong injury so the fat cats at the NCAA, TV networks, college a.d.s, etc can enjoy "capitalism". I think the football players are now seeing the big picture.

    That's the argument he should have made. What we're calling out is his B.S. presentation of financial #s, with his apparently astronomical rent and food costs that led to some substandard standard of living, even though he's describing something a whole lot nicer than most college students have. That's his problem right there.


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    Re: Jake McDonough talks about paying players.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyDude16 View Post
    Never said there isn't a need for a health reform. But I guess if you want to go that route, they should be able to be taken care of during and after their playing days for any injuries sustained during or come after as a result of their playing days.
    We can agree on that. Of course the medical bills is only part of the health exposure. Having lifelong back pain, concussion syndrome, etc is the bigger risk they expose themselves to while generating billions for others. Just seems like in a society that praises capitalism there should be a way to share more with those that create the wealth. Without players willing to risk their health the NCAA execs, TV guys, coaches, etc don't make their millions and we sit home on Saturdays.



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    Re: Jake McDonough talks about paying players.

    The ncaa is comprised of member schools. There is no ncaa without its members.



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    Re: Jake McDonough talks about paying players.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyArob View Post
    I thought stipends were equal across the board. Does each school get to pick how things are split up?
    It is determined my cost of living in a given city. Ames is fairly cheap to live compaired to other Big 12 towns.


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    Re: Jake McDonough talks about paying players.

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    It's also his and other football players "choice" to try to get a bigger slice of the billion dollar pie they generate. It's called capitalism and the NCAA, college gear retailers, college administrators, etc. are lovin it.
    A lot of people work for billion dollar companies and make less than or equal money to these student athletes scholarship and benefit value.


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    Re: Jake McDonough talks about paying players.

    Jay Bilas is an intelligent person and a great hoops analyst.

    He is an idiot on this topic. He has simply hopped aboard the OUTRAGE train in an attempt to draw attention to himself.

    the NCAA does not exist without its members. its not some stand-alone publicly-held corporation. you can jump on the NCAA website and look at how its money is distributed and you can look at its 990. the NCAA pays an admin staff, hosts championships across 3 divisions for men and women, pays for some insurance, and the rest goes back to the member schools. the member schools then use that revenue to fund their programs or the reinvest into infrastructure and other capital improvements. when this happens, its generates hundreds of jobs and pumps millions into local economies across the state in addition to the economic and social impact of football saturdays across the country. oh yeah- it also provides a free college education to thousands of kids, many of whom would have NO CHANCE at college otherwise. it also provides marketing to the respective universities, which in the case of Iowa State University is completely free because the athletic department writes a check to the school for the full cost of attendance and there is no accounting function that accounts for the impact of athletics on the school as a whole.

    so yeah, lets blow it all up because a few dozen coaches and AD's are talented and smart enough to run successful programs that keep things running efficiently and they get paid a lot.

    screw bilas, mcdonough, and anyone else who cant see the bigger picture.



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    Re: Jake McDonough talks about paying players.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnydugouts View Post
    Jay Bilas is an intelligent person and a great hoops analyst.

    He is an idiot on this topic. He has simply hopped aboard the OUTRAGE train in an attempt to draw attention to himself.

    the NCAA does not exist without its members. its not some stand-alone publicly-held corporation. you can jump on the NCAA website and look at how its money is distributed and you can look at its 990. the NCAA pays an admin staff, hosts championships across 3 divisions for men and women, pays for some insurance, and the rest goes back to the member schools. the member schools then use that revenue to fund their programs or the reinvest into infrastructure and other capital improvements. when this happens, its generates hundreds of jobs and pumps millions into local economies across the state in addition to the economic and social impact of football saturdays across the country. oh yeah- it also provides a free college education to thousands of kids, many of whom would have NO CHANCE at college otherwise. it also provides marketing to the respective universities, which in the case of Iowa State University is completely free because the athletic department writes a check to the school for the full cost of attendance and there is no accounting function that accounts for the impact of athletics on the school as a whole.

    so yeah, lets blow it all up because a few dozen coaches and AD's are talented and smart enough to run successful programs that keep things running efficiently and they get paid a lot.

    screw bilas, mcdonough, and anyone else who cant see the bigger picture.
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    If its practices are found to be illegal, then yes, by all means, let's "blow it up" although I object to that phrasing. College football isn't going anywhere. It might change, but nobody is "blowing it all up."


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    Re: Jake McDonough talks about paying players.

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    A lot of people work for billion dollar companies and make less than or equal money to these student athletes scholarship and benefit value.
    You make a point, and maybe those at the bottom should be sharing in more of the wealth. But they're more easily replaced than guys that can run 4.5 40's, bench 400 lbs, and are willing to slam full speed into each other dozens of times almost every day.



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    Re: Jake McDonough talks about paying players.

    How do justify paying scholarship players when a walk on that plays gets nothing?



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    Re: Jake McDonough talks about paying players.

    I like the stance this article in The Atlantic takes on saying that the NCAA should adopt the route that the Olympics took:

    The Olympics doesn't pay participants. It simply allows them to get paid. There's a difference. A difference college sports should welcome with open arms. Don't make campus athletes university employees. But do let them be like Phelps, appearing in commercials and on the cover of video games, profiting off their fame and image like everyone else in America. Including their coaches. Doing so won't cost the current college sports industrial complex a penny of the billions it receives for men's football and basketball broadcast rights; if anything, it will help grow and share the wealth without having to share too much of said wealth.
    http://www.theatlantic.com/entertain...eurism/260275/

    It won't cost the schools anything. All athletes of all sports could be allowed to seek their own endorsements. That doesn't seem like it would kill the athletic department. It might steer athletes to more lucrative sports, but so what.


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