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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCy View Post
    If he could chose one former Cyclone to add to this year's team? My first thought would be Cato. A big shot blocker in the middle since he seems to have a lot of ball handling and shooting guards. But then I think how would he use him and since he does not shoot from the outside he does not fit the offense he has been running. Floyd ran a lot of so called junk with him ( box and one, triangle and two)Remember It is who CFH would chose and maybe latter CW could ask him and see who on here can guess correctly.
    Cato would limit us too much on offense. We are at our best when we can spread out the defense and present multiple points of attack. While he would be a great addition to our defense, I think his value there would be minimized by his lack of offense.



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    Fred Hoiberg



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    Quote Originally Posted by roundball View Post
    LOL. Even within those parameters, there are much better options than Homan.

    It's got to be Fizer or Tinsley, though. If there's one trait that defines Fred's coaching style (other than being completely awesome), it's that he takes the best talent he can, regardless of their position, and designs a system around them.


    I agree and find it interesting to think about how he would adjust his system to player strengths. Do you think he would go box-n-1 with a Cato type?



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    A Cato type of guy would be ideal but specifically for Fred, guys like Royce, Kane or Georges would the best fit. Those guys play multiple positions and create match up nightmares. Fred has shown a preference for guys like that rather than traditional players. The answer to this question is more about who the coach is rather than the player.



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCy View Post
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    I agree and find it interesting to think about how he would adjust his system to player strengths. Do you think he would go box-n-1 with a Cato type?
    I don't think anything would change, except instead of Georges as your "back line" guy, you'd have a guy who can block shots. The biggest adjustment would be more on ball pressure bc you have a safety behind you.



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

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    Himself.
    Careful, he doesn't want to go blind



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    Quote Originally Posted by roundball View Post
    LOL. Even within those parameters, there are much better options than Homan.

    It's got to be Fizer or Tinsley, though. If there's one trait that defines Fred's coaching style (other than being completely awesome), it's that he takes the best talent he can, regardless of their position, and designs a system around them.
    I'm inclined to agree, though I lean toward Tinsley. The real question is which player would make everyone around them better and for that criteria, Tinsley wins hands down. Who is going to stop him from getting to any place on the floor he wants to? And, when help comes, there is no one better at finding others in scoring position.

    Royce would actually be a combination of Fizer/Tinsley with his strength, ball handling, and passing ability.


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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    Kenny Pratt



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    Royce and Georges would be soo ridiculously unfair for teams to try to matchup with on offense.

    As for defense... coach 'em up!!



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    Another vote for Fizer as option 1, and White as 1b.

    My second choice (given need) is a shooter - so perhaps a Sullivan or Willoughby or McGee (or Hoiberg)

    Think we're pretty good down low from what I gather with McKay. Obviously Niang is solid. Sounds like BDJ is a bit of a slasher/scorer. We have good shooting with Long, hopefully Thomas improves and we'll see what the new crew brings in to add to that. Should be solid at PG with Morris and Custer.

    A big body who can defend some and create his own shot or a dead eye from outside.



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    I think Tinsley is tough to pick against but also really like the idea of Babb coming back. He had great size and was an above-average shooter(wish he would have put it on the floor a little more). But his ability to shut down the opposing teams best perimeter threat consistently was amazing.



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    Well, considering what we already have now where we might have something missing/something to upgrade...

    The positions below are just a quick interpretation of Fred's offense...

    Point Guards - Morris, Custer
    Shooters - Long, Thomas
    Wings - Hogue, BDJ, Nader
    Stretch Posts - Niang, The Greek
    True Post - McKay

    So could you find better past players for any of these roles...

    Point guards - Tinsley, Kane
    Shooters - Hornacek, Hoiberg, Thompson, Babb (not a bad shooter and an incredible defender)
    Wings - Grayer, Stevens
    Stretch Post - Ejim, White, Brackins
    True Post - Fizer, Cato

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    No offense to Monte Morris, but Tinsley would be a massive upgrade there.

    Likewise to Naz/Thomas to get Hornacek, Hoiberg, Christopherson, or McGee.

    Wings, I'm not so sure there is a clear-cut upgrade given the style of the modern game and how much those three have already proven/how well they fit Fred's newfangled style.

    Bringing Ejim back would be awesome, but probably not as much as Royce White for just being a completely unique (and, at times, dominant) sort of player.

    Fizer would be awesome teamed with Niang and do well in the go-go-score game that Fred has us run. Cato was incredibly, yes, but I imagine McKay covers some of that ability.

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    I can't really decide. I would think our weakness is going to be defense (like it always seems to be), which argues for a Babb to play their best defender and/or Cato to protect the rim, but I feel McKay might have that covered. Upgrading to Tinsley at point guard makes sense, too, given it all flows through that combo guard position in the modern college game. Our current crop of shooters is really good, but not "great," which would mean it would be really nice to have the player Fred around, too. I could so see Fizer, probably the best player in school history, tearing it up in this system and feeding off Niang and the shooters all day long, too. Royce is just Royce for, again, being this unique sort of point power forward/point center for us.



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    I think we need Skogs. True Center in the middle.



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    Clint Varley (a poor man's Barkley) or Andrew Skoglund.



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    Re: Who would CFH chose

    I would have loved to see CFH coach Brackins and build a team around him.

    I think Fred would take Tinsley first though.



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