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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by MaccloNe View Post
    All you experts here need to state how many years you have coached at the D1 or D2 level before making comments. Oh, that would kill the thread.

    I bet you'd be surprised....I know of at least one that has D1 experience



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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by MaccloNe View Post
    All you experts here need to state how many years you have coached at the D1 or D2 level before making comments. Oh, that would kill the thread.
    You first.



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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by BWRhasnoAC View Post
    You first.



    I didn't comment on Fred's coaching. Do I really need to spell that out for you?



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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by MaccloNe View Post
    All you experts here need to state how many years you have coached at the D1 or D2 level before making comments. Oh, that would kill the thread.
    Seems too me like some pretty good insight and reasonable analysis going on in here.



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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by MaccloNe View Post
    All you experts here need to state how many years you have coached at the D1 or D2 level before making comments. Oh, that would kill the thread.
    Some of us have coached plenty enough to comment on this. By that logic should we scale that down? If you didnt play in college you shouldnt comment in basketball threads......if you didnt play in high school you should be banned......would that make sense? No. MOst anyone who played even high school ball can go thru all those screens defensively and see whats happening...sorry if you cannot.

    Anyway...to the coherent people posting. Great post...love the breakdown. It would be interesting to see how many of the successful screen and rolls were on Niang. Im not calling him bad defensively, but if im an opposing coach hes certainly the guy i want to go at for a number of reasons. Thomas was lost on many of those im guessing but...hes a freshman.

    An to piggyback others.....a intimidating shot blocker certainly will effect those numbers, not having two freshman getting a lot of playing time will help. Id expect those numbers to look a lot better this year.



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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by MaccloNe View Post
    All you experts here need to state how many years you have coached at the D1 or D2 level before making comments. Oh, that would kill the thread.
    So you're more worried about the D1/D2 coaching experience of the messenger than you are the merits of their message?

    For the record and to make you happy, I have zero years of D1/D2 coaching experience.



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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by roundball View Post
    So you're more worried about the D1/D2 coaching experience of the messenger than you are the merits of their message?

    For the record and to make you happy, I have zero years of D1/D2 coaching experience.

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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    As someone who stopped playing organized basketball in 6th grade, can someone explaing icing, hedging, flat hedging, etc. for me?


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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    Great post cyismydog. I honestly thought that ISU was pretty effective defending ball screens this past year. You're always gonna have some lapses, and sometimes you get beat by a talented player Markel Brown, but I think not letting teams get easy buckets off of ball screens was one of the reasons ISU managed to be an average defense this past year despite playing 2 freshman significant minutes, and not having a lot of height in the interior.



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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by besserheimerphat View Post
    As someone who stopped playing organized basketball in 6th grade, can someone explaing icing, hedging, flat hedging, etc. for me?
    Icing is having the defender on the ball force the ball handler to go away from the screen so that it cannot be used.

    Hedging is the defender on the man setting the screen popping above the screen to help while the on ball defender gets past the screen and then both guys most recover. While the on ball defender recovers the other defenders on the floor have to help even more and shade to the screener should he roll or dive to the rim.

    The flat hedge (assuming because of different terminology, I've always used the above example as a "hard hedge" and this is just "hedge") is the same concept as above but the defender on the screen doesn't jump out above the screen as much and is more of a playing it safe deal.




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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    Our defense was fine considering the make-up of the roster.

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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    Our defensive goal is not to shut down everything an opponent does, but force them to do what we want them to do. And then score more on the other end. Defensive statistics can be impacted greatly by strategic decisions.



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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    This is a great post by “cyismydog”.

    I predict Monte Morris will improve his defense this year because he desires to do so, but McKay will be the big factor in a substantially improved team defense.



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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    I agree a lot with what was said here, however due to the makeup of the team (freshman playing significant minutes, short frontcourt, little depth) I was pleased with the d.

    All of the advanced stats say the best way to defend screens is to hedge way out, as far past the 3 point line as possible. That's just a really bad strategy with last years team with depth and conditioning being an issue in the frontcourt.



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    Re: A look at Iowa State's Ballscreen Defense Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Great post cyismydog. I honestly thought that ISU was pretty effective defending ball screens this past year. You're always gonna have some lapses, and sometimes you get beat by a talented player Markel Brown, but I think not letting teams get easy buckets off of ball screens was one of the reasons ISU managed to be an average defense this past year despite playing 2 freshman significant minutes, and not having a lot of height in the interior.
    Thanks Doc-I will point out that a ball screen was the second most frequent play type that led to a score against ISU, and they were quite bad at guarding it statistically as well as from the eye test.
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