Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 39
  1. #16
    Rookie
    Points: 13,457, Level: 35
    Level completed: 16%, Points required for next Level: 593
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered10000 Experience Points
    88clone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    West Des Moines
    Posts
    405
    Points
    13,457
    Level
    35
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 204
    Given: 177

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    I actually think what he did was amazing. Have you ever tried to ride a bike on drugs? Not easy to do, let alone win a race.



  2. #17
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 45,731, Level: 66
    Level completed: 13%, Points required for next Level: 1,219
    Overall activity: 16.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    jbindm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    4,637
    Points
    45,731
    Level
    66
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,069
    Given: 749

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Meh. He's done some terrible things and some good things. Take it all into account and think about how terrible it would be for people to judge you based solely on the worst thing you ever did. I know, easy for me to say because I wasn't one of the many people he screwed over.

    If anything he's just another cautionary tale of athletes and hero worship mentality. Put anyone on a pedestal and sooner or later they'll fall off.



  3. #18
    Legend
    Points: 205,213, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 20.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience PointsRecommendation Second Class
    Farnsworth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Omaha, NE
    Posts
    10,757
    Points
    205,213
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,780
    Given: 1,043

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by jbindm View Post
    If anything he's just another cautionary tale of athletes and hero worship mentality. Put anyone on a pedestal and sooner or later they'll fall off.
    Dear god please let Freddie balance on that pedestal forever.



  4. #19
    Addict
    Points: 65,320, Level: 79
    Level completed: 30%, Points required for next Level: 1,130
    Overall activity: 20.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    wxman1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Cedar Rapids
    Posts
    6,271
    Points
    65,320
    Level
    79
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,196
    Given: 589

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Wither the French want to admit it or not cheating and drugging was and probably still is rampant in the sport.

    Glad he wants to get involved and help. I don't see many cons to him.



  5. #20
    All-Star
    Points: 37,964, Level: 60
    Level completed: 10%, Points required for next Level: 1,086
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    1,684
    Points
    37,964
    Level
    60
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 249
    Given: 308

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by Farnsworth View Post
    Cancer awareness is great and all to spread the word and help find a cure, but it's not like we weren't all aware of it before Lance as well. If he didn't help collect the money for research, another group would have. So I don't consider that such a pro for him.
    I don't believe Livestrong contributes to cancer research. All their money goes to awareness and support for those with the disease and their families. That has been one criticism of the organization -- donors think they are supporting cancer research.



  6. #21
    Addict
    Points: 65,998, Level: 79
    Level completed: 72%, Points required for next Level: 452
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    pulse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    5,621
    Points
    65,998
    Level
    79
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 310
    Given: 177

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    It's RAGBRAI, I'm sure if you polled everyone in it you'd find worse than lying and doping in the crowd. Certainly both... After each day.

    Plus.. its RAGBRAI..



  7. #22
    All-Star
    Points: 25,495, Level: 48
    Level completed: 95%, Points required for next Level: 55
    Overall activity: 5.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Chitowncy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    1,165
    Points
    25,495
    Level
    48
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 228
    Given: 168

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    It's not so much the cheating. It's the years of denying, lying, and smearing of anyone who accused him that I've got a problem with. He earned his penalty.
    Exactly. The smearing of people telling the truth is the biggest thing to me. He deliberately tried to disparage and destroy the reputations (and livelihoods) of people who investigated his cover-up. That is the biggest thing to me.

    Imagine if someone tried to defame you and destroy your reputation and put your job at risk because you were following leads and uncovering facts. Would you be ok that the person was doing that to you and you could potentially lose your job?



  8. #23
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 45,345, Level: 65
    Level completed: 85%, Points required for next Level: 205
    Overall activity: 32.0%
    Achievements:
    Created Album picturesVeteran25000 Experience Points
    ThatllDoCy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    4,883
    Points
    45,345
    Level
    65
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 750
    Given: 982

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Really wish Lance was the hero he was made out to be. I'd shake his hand out of respect for the hard work he put in.


    “Man suffers only because he takes seriously what the gods made for fun.”
    Alan Wilson Watts

  9. #24
    Starter
    Points: 14,788, Level: 36
    Level completed: 93%, Points required for next Level: 62
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Longmont, CO
    Posts
    734
    Points
    14,788
    Level
    36
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 31
    Given: 13

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    I wonder if he could hook me up with some EPO for RAGBRAI. I need something to counter all the beer.



  10. #25
    Addict
    Points: 141,151, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    WhatchaGonnaDo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    5,628
    Points
    141,151
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 666
    Given: 272

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    But what if he wins???



  11. #26
    Addict
    Points: 68,846, Level: 81
    Level completed: 47%, Points required for next Level: 904
    Overall activity: 7.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    CyCloned's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Robins, Iowa
    Posts
    5,966
    Points
    68,846
    Level
    81
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 565
    Given: 267

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by BringBackJohnny View Post
    I am ok with the guy. Other people have cheated in sports and lied about things and didn't get it this bad. The guy tried to do some good things with his fame. All in all I would say his impact on the world has had more positive then negative effect for the masses.
    This is kind of how I feel about it. Yes, the guy cheated and lied about it. What about ARob or all the other guys that have and probably still are doping? Didn't they deny that they were on drugs? Didn't they try to discredit their accusers?

    Lance at least was trying to do some good for the rest of the world with Livestrong. Maybe it isn't run to everyone's standards, but I bet it is better than 1/2 the other charitable organizations out there.

    I am not a huge fan of Lance because of the way he acted in and out of the sport, but if you can be arrogant and be in sports.........



  12. #27
    All-Star
    Points: 41,038, Level: 62
    Level completed: 53%, Points required for next Level: 612
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    1,686
    Points
    41,038
    Level
    62
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 879
    Given: 521

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by LutherBlue View Post
    I don't believe Livestrong contributes to cancer research. All their money goes to awareness and support for those with the disease and their families. That has been one criticism of the organization -- donors think they are supporting cancer research.
    Bingo... Livestrong simply exists to take money and spread awareness of cancer. Its been documented that Livestrong contributed pretty much nothing to actual cancer research. Livestrong did line the pockets of big time agencies though so that's pretty great.



  13. #28
    Speechless
    Points: 404,721, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 78.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteranOverdrive
    00clone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Iowa City area
    Posts
    18,468
    Points
    404,721
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 7,322
    Given: 1,786

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    This is kind of how I feel about it. Yes, the guy cheated and lied about it. What about ARob or all the other guys that have and probably still are doping? Didn't they deny that they were on drugs? Didn't they try to discredit their accusers?

    Lance at least was trying to do some good for the rest of the world with Livestrong. Maybe it isn't run to everyone's standards, but I bet it is better than 1/2 the other charitable organizations out there.

    I am not a huge fan of Lance because of the way he acted in and out of the sport, but if you can be arrogant and be in sports.........

    U mean Arod? Baseball guy got caught and is paying the price. Arob football guy has never been shown to be a doper.





  14. #29
    Legend
    Points: 205,213, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 20.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience PointsRecommendation Second Class
    Farnsworth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Omaha, NE
    Posts
    10,757
    Points
    205,213
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,780
    Given: 1,043

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    This is kind of how I feel about it. Yes, the guy cheated and lied about it. What about ARob or all the other guys that have and probably still are doping? Didn't they deny that they were on drugs? Didn't they try to discredit their accusers?

    Lance at least was trying to do some good for the rest of the world with Livestrong. Maybe it isn't run to everyone's standards, but I bet it is better than 1/2 the other charitable organizations out there.

    I am not a huge fan of Lance because of the way he acted in and out of the sport, but if you can be arrogant and be in sports.........
    I hate to be this guy, but I also think Lance used his situation to propel himself as all he cared about was Lance. Like another poster said, his type of cancer results in a .8% death rate. He saw symptoms, had a quick procedure done to cut one of nuts out, and is now living large off of it.



  15. #30
    All-Star
    Points: 33,959, Level: 56
    Level completed: 76%, Points required for next Level: 291
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    Created Album picturesVeteran25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Urbandale
    Posts
    1,756
    Points
    33,959
    Level
    56
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 403
    Given: 375

    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Maybe Manny Ramirez can ride on his team this year.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: ESPN
  • HOOPS: Iowa State vs. Texas
  • February 13, 2016
  • 07:30 PM