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    Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Lance Armstrong will be riding part of RAGBRAI this year. Is this a good or bad thing?

    I personally think that Lance was given a pretty harsh penalty for cheating in a sport where cheating was almost expected 15 years ago.



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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    Lance Armstrong will be riding part of RAGBRAI this year. Is this a good or bad thing?

    I personally think that Lance was given a pretty harsh penalty for cheating in a sport where cheating was almost expected 15 years ago.
    It's not so much the cheating. It's the years of denying, lying, and smearing of anyone who accused him that I've got a problem with. He earned his penalty.


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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    It's not so much the cheating. It's the years of denying, lying, and smearing of anyone who accused him that I've got a problem with. He earned his penalty.

    This. The guy is a straight up ****** bag.


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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    I'm trying really hard to care one way or another, but I cannot.



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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    I don't think it matters either way if he rides or not. If I see him ride past me, ok cool. If he serves me a beer in Rock Valley, ok cool. If I don't see him at all, it won't dampen my week.



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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Lance Armstrong did more to cure a disease that is real than 99.999% of the rest of
    the world. I really don't care if he cheated at a race that means nothing in the grand scheme of things. I know I would rather have cancer cured than somebody winning a bicycle race.



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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by 06_CY View Post
    I don't think it matters either way if he rides or not. If I see him ride past me, ok cool. If he serves me a beer in Rock Valley, ok cool. If I don't see him at all, it won't dampen my week.
    Same boat as me. He's ruined some lives for individual gains, and he's also raised millions for other people's health. If he can make restitution with his accusers, it would go a long way.



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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by clone34 View Post
    Lance Armstrong did more to cure a disease that is real than 99.999% of the rest of
    the world. I really don't care if he cheated at a race that means nothing in the grand scheme of things. I know I would rather have cancer cured than somebody winning a bicycle race.

    I'm sorry, but I don't recall Lance getting his medical degree. He didn't to **** to cure cancer, he did raise awareness for cancer, which is cool, but he did it on the podium he was afforded by his cheating. I'm sorry about his nut and all, and I applaud him for how he's parlayed his cheating into something worthwhile, but I'll be darned if anyone can convince me I should care if he walks by me any more than I should care if one of you guys walk by me. Honestly, I think if someone told me "Hey, there's Rulzzz", or "Hey, there's Janny"...I'd be more moved than if Lance walked by me.



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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by 06_CY View Post
    If I see him ride past me, ok cool.
    You're assuming he'll spot you a 50-mile head start that day?



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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by 00clone View Post
    I'm sorry, but I don't recall Lance getting his medical degree. He didn't to **** to cure cancer, he did raise awareness for cancer, which is cool, but he did it on the podium he was afforded by his cheating. I'm sorry about his nut and all, and I applaud him for how he's parlayed his cheating into something worthwhile, but I'll be darned if anyone can convince me I should care if he walks by me any more than I should care if one of you guys walk by me. Honestly, I think if someone told me "Hey, there's Rulzzz", or "Hey, there's Janny"...I'd be more moved than if Lance walked by me.
    Cancer awareness is great and all to spread the word and help find a cure, but it's not like we weren't all aware of it before Lance as well. If he didn't help collect the money for research, another group would have. So I don't consider that such a pro for him.



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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by Farnsworth View Post
    Cancer awareness is great and all to spread the word and help find a cure, but it's not like we weren't all aware of it before Lance as well. If he didn't help collect the money for research, another group would have. So I don't consider that such a pro for him.
    There's a case to be made that all of these high-profile cancer awareness campaigns redirect funding from more severe forms of cancer (people have limited funds to donate, and perhaps they shouldn't be giving so much to a cancer that only has a .8% mortality rate).

    There's also the contention that most of the monies raised for cancer research aren't used very effectively.



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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    I am ok with the guy. Other people have cheated in sports and lied about things and didn't get it this bad. The guy tried to do some good things with his fame. All in all I would say his impact on the world has had more positive then negative effect for the masses.


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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    Lance Armstrong will be riding part of RAGBRAI this year. Is this a good or bad thing?
    How could it be bad?



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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    Quote Originally Posted by roundball View Post
    There's a case to be made that all of these high-profile cancer awareness campaigns redirect funding from more severe forms of cancer (people have limited funds to donate, and perhaps they shouldn't be giving so much to a cancer that only has a .8% mortality rate).

    There's also the contention that most of the monies raised for cancer research aren't used very effectively.
    I agree. I was going to post some of that, but didn't want the "high horse" brigade to come hate on me as CF is known to do that.



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    Re: Lance Armstrong to go on RAGBRAI again

    After reading his 1st book, I'm not a fan. I don't believe the theory that you have to be an arrogant jerk to be the best at a sport.



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