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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by CYphyllis View Post
    Yeah, no thanks. I'll take the victory, I don't care about the ridiculous ideal of honor in sports.

    Seriously, do you understand why programs use the phrase 'Honor Before Victory'? It's because they don't win much. Plain and simple.
    Lol at tough guy.



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    Re: David Irving

    The "cancer on the team" thing certainly has validity, it just happened to another school around here.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by LutherBlue View Post
    Lol at tough guy.
    That's not tough guy, that's reality.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyforce View Post
    When players become a cancer to your program you don't keep them based on how much the individual can help you team you get rid of them because of the damage that would be caused by showing the behavior would be tolerated.
    Coe was a cancer to the program? Everything I've heard is that he was well liked by teammates



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by CyTwins View Post
    Coe was a cancer to the program? Everything I've heard is that he was well liked by teammates
    OMG. When you don't work hard in practice, miss practice, miss weights...do you think that is the definition of a leader, a teammate even? Do you think that his laziness could rub his position mates the wrong way when he isn't working hard in drills (or missing them altogether) but still gets the snaps in games? Cut the cancer out and move on!


    "winners never quit; quitters never win"

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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by DuckDynastyCy View Post
    OMG. When you don't work hard in practice, miss practice, miss weights...do you think that is the definition of a leader, a teammate even? Do you think that his laziness could rub his position mates the wrong way when he isn't working hard in drills (or missing them altogether) but still gets the snaps in games? Cut the cancer out and move on!
    Link to him not working hard during drills/practice? Also not every player needs to be looked at as a leader. Not trying to defend him but everything I've been told was the other players liked him.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by DuckDynastyCy View Post
    OMG. When you don't work hard in practice, miss practice, miss weights...do you think that is the definition of a leader, a teammate even? Do you think that his laziness could rub his position mates the wrong way when he isn't working hard in drills (or missing them altogether) but still gets the snaps in games? Cut the cancer out and move on!
    Amen brother! Just ask Brandon Jensen.

    How would you feel as a teammate if Rodney Coe showed up late to meetings, lifting, practice, etc.... or didn't even show up at all sometimes, but yet he still got a lot of playing time.... while at the same time the coaches tell you that if you want to play more you have to be "All In" and do the extra work that's needed to get playing time?

    It isn't coincidence that Jensen decided to come back after both Irving and Coe were booted off the team. I know it makes our DL very thin, but I'm hoping it will still be a net positive not having those two on the team this year.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by CyTwins View Post
    Coe was a cancer to the program? Everything I've heard is that he was well liked by teammates
    False.



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    Re: David Irving

    As a season ticket holder I hope both of them are back on the team yesterday. Honor before victory, unless it's a WR living in a halfway house just out of jail. Or letting a guy play when he is under investigation for domestic assault. If we have a season line we did last year you wouldn't be able to trade tickets for a bag of pork rinds on eBay. Then they get to Jack prices and minimum donation levels into the face of that.



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    Re: David Irving

    Wins before anything else. Let him back, let Coe back. I want wins. I don't give a rats *** what these guys do in their spare time.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by WallenIzBallin View Post
    Wins before anything else. Let him back, let Coe back. I want wins. I don't give a rats *** what these guys do in their spare time.
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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by WallenIzBallin View Post
    Wins before anything else. Let him back, let Coe back. I want wins. I don't give a rats *** what these guys do in their spare time.
    Neither scenario is going to provide many wins.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by LutherBlue View Post
    Lol at tough guy.
    No clue what you are attempting to get at here.

    Well, I take that back. I understand what you're trying to say, but you're forcing it into a situation where it doesn't work at all.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
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    If memory serves, I think it worked out pretty damn well for those two schools.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by WallenIzBallin View Post
    Wins before anything else. Let him back, let Coe back. I want wins. I don't give a rats *** what these guys do in their spare time.
    There's only one problem with this logic.... we won 3 games WITH both Coe and Irving. You wanna know why? Because other guys didn't give a rat's ***** about busting their tails when these two didn't care and still played a lot of minutes.

    It destroys a team's morale and desire. If Coe and Irving were so good, why was our defense so terrible and our team so terrible?

    Look at the basketball team. All the guys are talking about how hard they are working in the gym, even on their own time, because they know playing time is at a premium if they want to see any at all. This is what you strive for IMO. But if coaches reward poor effort, as they did with Coe and Irving, it completely destroys a team's will and desire. "Why should I even try when I show up everyday and work my rear end off, but guys like Coe and Irving are always breaking team rules and playing ahead of me?"

    Nice try though.



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