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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    I'll be thrilled if it's only 5.
    I'm trying to keep an optimistic view about the situation.



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    Re: David Irving

    With or without Irving and Coe, our secondary and Luke Knott are going to end up doing a bulk of the tackling anyways.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by CYphyllis View Post
    As long as they can win some football games, I'm all for it.

    Let's not try to act like anything beyond wins and losses truly matters to fans. We can sit here and anonymously lie back and forth at each other about how much we care about the character of the players, but I'd prefer to not waste the time.
    Yea, I don't think we were going to win anymore games with them. Maybe 1 more. Who cares if we could have been 4-8 as opposed to 3-9. Big whoopie.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    With or without Irving and Coe, our secondary and Luke Knott are going to end up doing a bulk of the tackling anyways.
    True, that's usually how football works. Very rarely does a DL lead the team in tackles.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    Yea, I don't think we were going to win anymore games with them. Maybe 1 more. Who cares if we could have been 4-8 as opposed to 3-9. Big whoopie.
    There would be one Saturday in which I'd care and that's enough for me.



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    Re: David Irving

    What will happen is that people will skip straight to "wondering" whether Shane Burnham should be fired.




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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuts4Cy View Post
    I'm surprised to hear that he's still in Ames. You'd think he would have moved back to Calofornia.

    With that said, any news on if CPR is working behind the scenes to get Coe or Irving back? Maybe off scholarship?
    Appears Coe is headed to Akron.


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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by cycophagus View Post
    I'm more puzzled why they haven't shown up at an FCS school. They can transfer down to that level and play right away, right? The NFL leaves no stone unturned in the evaluation of talent. Its a way to keep their dreams alive, and hopefully stay out of trouble.
    If they could follow the rules and stay out of trouble we would not need this thread. The best either can hope for is to be the classic example of how to NOT exist in a Paul Rhoads football program. In the years to come CPR can point to Coe & Irving (who by then will be reduced to panhandling and living under s bridge) as how to NOT conduct yourself to be successful.











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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by CYphyllis View Post
    As long as they can win some football games, I'm all for it.

    Let's not try to act like anything beyond wins and losses truly matters to fans. We can sit here and anonymously lie back and forth at each other about how much we care about the character of the players, but I'd prefer to not waste the time.
    The problem with that is Coe simply isn't very good. He's not a guy that's going to make enough of a difference to help increase the win total. He's never shown anything on the field that makes him worth overlooking his past issues.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by Shawker View Post
    The problem with that is Coe simply isn't very good. He's not a guy that's going to make enough of a difference to help increase the win total. He's never shown anything on the field that makes him worth overlooking his past issues.
    Sounds like you were watching a different late season Coe than I was.



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by Shawker View Post
    The problem with that is Coe simply isn't very good. He's not a guy that's going to make enough of a difference to help increase the win total. He's never shown anything on the field that makes him worth overlooking his past issues.
    Simply incorrect. Would be our best defensive player next year. Top 2 with Tribune at least.



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    Re: David Irving

    I'm pretty sure Irving was expelled from Iowa State due to his whole VEISHEA incident....



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    Re: David Irving

    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    You're right. We should just let criminals back on the team. Players in the future will know they can do whatever they want because there won't be any repercussions. How brilliant. It's not like our DL wasn't going to be garbage with them anyways.
    To be fair, Coe was not kicked off for any criminal activity. He was dismissed for missing meetings, and all-around irresponsibility/laziness.


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    Re: David Irving

    If Coe would have had the drive and motivation of a player like, say, Jake Knott, he would be an absolute nightmare for O-Lines and QBs. He'd be a first round draft pick. High 2nd round at worst. Its really a shame.


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