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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    Well, so much for getting to play in the parade again.. wasn't able to make it back the past 3 years. This year I might have.. but then dumb people happened.

    This is throwing the baby out with the bath water and is sad. I still think it could've been handled by paring back on events and maybe only making it VEISHEA weekend instead of the whole week. But it's clear they didn't want to fix it, the people at the top just wanted it gone.



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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

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    lol. The "right" to have VEISHEA. Quick, someone call the ACLU! There are rights being violated over here!


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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    Quote Originally Posted by CyDude16 View Post
    Oofta, I use to bartend out there 1-3 times a week in college for some extra hours. Regretted and never looked forward to it.
    I bartended at the Tic Toc (on Keeler St) waaaay back when every so often. I'm lucky it was there and not some of the seedier places!


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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

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    I'd say something along the lines of "Stop flipping cars and we can have a serious conversation about that.:"


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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclones2015 View Post
    I've been working on a huge thing to basically do a "student editorial" on VEISHEA for the Daily. They keep telling me to expand my idea and get it in paragraph form (duh)

    Basically my rough idea to fix it (which I sent to the Task Force and got no response)
    Clones 2015 I also sent in recommendations to fix Veishea. I emailed them to Tom Hill and also got no response, when I showed up at one of the meetings with copies for the Task Force and I during my time to speak I handed them out I told them then that it was not good that there were no replies to emails sent and Hill didn't seem to happy when I publicly pointed out I submitted my ideas twice and then had to hand deliver them to feel that my voice was heard (ignored but at least heard.) If you want my ideas send me a pm.



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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    lol. The "right" to have VEISHEA. Quick, someone call the ACLU! There are rights being violated over here!
    I know I saw that in the Constitution.

    Bill of Rights:

    1. Speech, religion, etc.
    2. Guns
    3. VEISHEA
    4. Search and seizure

    Etc.



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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    Quote Originally Posted by NWICY View Post
    Clones 2015 I also sent in recommendations to fix Veishea. I emailed them to Tom Hill and also got no response, when I showed up at one of the meetings with copies for the Task Force and I during my time to speak I handed them out I told them then that it was not good that there were no replies to emails sent and Hill didn't seem to happy when I publicly pointed out I submitted my ideas twice and then had to hand deliver them to feel that my voice was heard (ignored but at least heard.) If you want my ideas send me a pm.
    Pretty sad. Makes one wonder if the committee (Tom Hill) really wants to hear possible solutions to big parties getting out of control. Apparently blaming Veishea is easier than putting the blame where it really belongs, on some out of control drunks and making them take responsibility for their actions. Or better yet finding solutions to work with and/or prevent parties from getting out of control. This is the 2nd time in the last 10 years this has been a newsworthy occurrence so it needs to get more attention, but not to over-react.



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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    Lots of arrests and bad things happen tailgating. Better get ride of that too.

    I think older generations had it better. The current method for presenting news and immediate need for action has crippled much of what once was.

    I thought college age people were once considered grown ups? Glad helicopter parents still think they need to be babysitted.


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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    Quote Originally Posted by NWICY View Post
    Clones 2015 I also sent in recommendations to fix Veishea. I emailed them to Tom Hill and also got no response, when I showed up at one of the meetings with copies for the Task Force and I during my time to speak I handed them out I told them then that it was not good that there were no replies to emails sent and Hill didn't seem to happy when I publicly pointed out I submitted my ideas twice and then had to hand deliver them to feel that my voice was heard (ignored but at least heard.) If you want my ideas send me a pm.
    Good for you! Glad you didn't take that initial response and quit.


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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    Quote Originally Posted by BringBackJohnny View Post
    Lots of arrests and bad things happen tailgating. Better get ride of that too.

    I think older generations had it better. The current method for presenting news and immediate need for action has crippled much of what once was.

    I thought college age people were once considered grown ups? Glad helicopter parents still think they need to be babysitted.
    I don't see much evidence of parents of students being involved in this at all. I'd say it's more a good number of Ames residents who are fed up with so-called "adults" who can't seem to keep their **** together. I'm sorry to all the students who work hard on their exhibits, but like I said before, there's plenty of room at the Boone County Fair next to all the other 4-H projects. VEISHEA has long been a black eye on the town and the University. If they want to try it again in a few years, okay. But if it's gone for good, then good riddance.


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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    I think there are a lot of other effective things that could of been tried (that had not been tried yet) to keep the tradition that is VEISHEA alive. VEISHEA does so many good things for ISU/Ames, ending it for the few bad things that happen with it seems like the easy way out.



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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    I think there are a lot of other effective things that could of been tried (that had not been tried yet) to keep the tradition that is VEISHEA alive. VEISHEA does so many good things for ISU/Ames, ending it for the few bad things that happen with it seems like the easy way out.
    I would bet it gets brought back in a few years. Just take a few years off and kind of hit the reset button.


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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUKyro View Post
    If you are there watching, you are adding to the mob mentality. 2 or 3 guys usually don't tip over a cop car and knock over light polls unless they feel safe in the mob.
    And if you're chanting VEISHEA, VEISHEA, VEISHEA... while watching then you've lost the "it was just a few bad eggs" argument completely.

    Doubly so when it happened on a Tuesday.



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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    I think there are a lot of other effective things that could of been tried (that had not been tried yet) to keep the tradition that is VEISHEA alive. VEISHEA does so many good things for ISU/Ames, ending it for the few bad things that happen with it seems like the easy way out.
    True.



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    Re: Task Force Recommendation for VEISHEA

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    I don't see much evidence of parents of students being involved in this at all. I'd say it's more a good number of Ames residents who are fed up with so-called "adults" who can't seem to keep their **** together. I'm sorry to all the students who work hard on their exhibits, but like I said before, there's plenty of room at the Boone County Fair next to all the other 4-H projects. VEISHEA has long been a black eye on the town and the University. If they want to try it again in a few years, okay. But if it's gone for good, then good riddance.
    I love how delusional you are on the subject. Not so much a critique on this post, but overall your responses in this thread. According to you, the only thing veishea is and is good is what happens after midnight. Have fun at the Boone County Fair.



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