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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Quote Originally Posted by EnhancedFujita View Post
    It definitely seems like scoring is up in the CCL for ISU players. It seems like 2-3 years ago we were wowed by a player getting 40-50 points. Now our backup post is doing it. Doesn't mean everyone will be a stud in the Big 12, but definitely indicates the continued upwards trend of talent at all spots on the team.
    While I do agree with your statement and I think the majority of it is due to the increased quality of ISU players like you said, I also don't think we can deny that a portion of it is somewhat due to the quality of the league being down some too over the past few years. Back when we struggled more, we also struggled more against the likes of better Drake players than there are now, combined with the likes of individuals such as the Korvers, Harrison Barnes, Eric Crawford (former UNI player) and Doug McDermotts (I think he played) of the world. I just don't think we've had many of those in a while pariticipating. Shoot, I'm not sure I can name more than a couple players names playing this year not on the ISU team.



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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    It's clear that a game will be a failure if we win by less than 185.
    If that happens in any of our games this season, it seems fair to question both Fred's ability and his allegiance to Iowa State University.


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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Quote Originally Posted by CyArob View Post
    It tells me that Edozie is going to be a scoring machine next year. ISU may score 250 points per game.
    Cyrob, you are all wet on 250 points. Hell, without Naing, Long and Nader the guys scored over 325 points last night. With them, it will be over 400 easy.

    Mark it down.



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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    It's clear that a game will be a failure if we win by less than 185.
    If that happens in any of our games this season, it seems fair to question both Fred's ability and his allegiance to Iowa State University.
    I can almost guarantee the first time we fail to beat a directional school by 50, someone (probably multiple someones) on here will be worried/angry/pessimistic about it.


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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Quote Originally Posted by Triggermv View Post
    While I do agree with your statement and I think the majority of it is due to the increased quality of ISU players like you said, I also don't think we can deny that a portion of it is somewhat due to the quality of the league being down some too over the past few years. Back when we struggled more, we also struggled more against the likes of better Drake players than there are now, combined with the likes of individuals such as the Korvers, Harrison Barnes, Eric Crawford (former UNI player) and Doug McDermotts (I think he played) of the world. I just don't think we've had many of those in a while pariticipating. Shoot, I'm not sure I can name more than a couple players names playing this year not on the ISU team.

    If I recall correctly, Barnes was drafted but never played (or if he did it was maybe one or two games). I don't ever remember Mcdermott playing.



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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Quote Originally Posted by clone4life82 View Post
    If I recall correctly, Barnes was drafted but never played (or if he did it was maybe one or two games). I don't ever remember Mcdermott playing.
    Yeah, but still.



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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Quote Originally Posted by 501Clone View Post
    Bubu was just like this in CCL... let's not get carried away here.
    As I recall Bubu really tore up the CCL the year before all of his legal problems. I also recall that Fred thought Bubu would be a contributor. Not saying the Dozer will be great, but everyone on Fred's teams needs to at least be a threat to score when they get a good shot. A little offense from him, even if it is the CCL, is good.



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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnerclone View Post
    He also "single handedly" saved the game vs. BYU last year. Guy is a stud. :)
    Ohhhhh I get it...because he used one hand to block the shot!!!!


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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Quote Originally Posted by flynnhicks03 View Post
    I can almost guarantee the first time we fail to beat a directional school by 50, someone (probably multiple someones) on here will be worried/angry/pessimistic about it.
    The only answer is to beat them all by triple digits or more.


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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Hey guys, I'm not naive enough to think Custer will be scoring 50+ in Big XII...but to echo what others have posted, if you look at the performance of the ISU players its pretty obvious that they are all really skilled. Combine that with all the accolades Custer has gotten over the years and I think you can make a pretty solid argument that the CCL just confirms the talent Fred saw when recruiting him.

    So call me crazy, say I'm carried away or whatever - I don't care. I will bet any dollar amount that Custer will be similar to Jacy Holloway for ISU when all is said and done.



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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    I think from a productivity perspective Custer will put up better numbers than Jacy did over his career.

    But Jacy was about winning. If Custer can have similar success to Holloway in the win/loss category that works for me.

    I remember Tim Floyd trying to recruit over Holloway every year. And every year he beat out all the new guys and was the starting PG again. Tough player.



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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Quote Originally Posted by Triggermv View Post
    I agree with CWs usual assessment on what to take away from the CCL. While I'm not putting too much stock into Custer tearing up the CCL to the point where I'm sure he is going to be a solid contributor for ISU, at least his CCL performances have done nothing to discredit him either, like it has for certain players in the past (Jordan Railey, Dodie Dunson, Eric McKnight.... etc.).

    What has been proven as faily solid takeaways is that if someone has a hard time producing in the CCL, they are more than likely going to have a hard time producing in the Big 12. There are a few exceptions though even to that like Hogue, who was good but not great last year in the CCL. Nevertheless, he still showed optimistics hints of what he could be, which I don't remember Eric McKnight ever showing. What I'm saying is there is no certainties with the CCL, but there are solid trends to look for.
    I don't think Dodie Dunson ever played in the CCL. He was actually a decent freshman, but any semblance of talent on McDermott's squads really stood out.

    Custer was not a big scorer in high school because his team didn't need him to be. At the least, this shows he has the ability to put the ball in the hoop at a high rate. I'm excited to have him and Morris in the same backcourt.


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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Quote Originally Posted by jahfg View Post
    I don't think Dodie Dunson ever played in the CCL. He was actually a decent freshman, but any semblance of talent on McDermott's squads really stood out.

    Custer was not a big scorer in high school because his team didn't need him to be. At the least, this shows he has the ability to put the ball in the hoop at a high rate. I'm excited to have him and Morris in the same backcourt.
    the 15/16 team may challenge the 12/13 team shooting the 3. Add Cooke to this year's shooters long, niang, Thomas, and Custer. Tsalmpouris looks like he can shoot it too but too early to really know. I'm sure I'm missing someone else who can shoot I on that roster.



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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Quote Originally Posted by flynnhicks03 View Post
    I can almost guarantee the first time we fail to beat a directional school by 50, someone (probably multiple someones) on here will be worried/angry/pessimistic about it.
    Oh it will absolutely happen. There were still peopling calling out the team and players like Ejim all the way through our final game at Hilton. Some of the posters on this board are going to complain no matter how good the times are in basketball.



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    Re: 7-9-14 CCL Recaps: Custer drops 52

    Most people on this board could score double digits in the CCL..

    Well maybe not ToCo, but everyone else.



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