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    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneYoda View Post
    It's been 11 years since I last lost my license, but twice it happened due to being a habitual violator. Three moving violations in a 12 month time span= suspension. I never took the classes. I just waited out the 60-90 days or however long it was. First speeding ticket was on my bicycle. Yep, that counts as a moving violation. After you get your license back, welcome to SR-22.
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    Not to derail but do those radar detectors work? I am thinking about getting one with my 24 hour drive coming up next month.
    It really depends. I have a good friend who has one and it works well with a few exceptions.

    At least his also detects the same range as automatic doors so it is not the best in the city but has a lower sensitivity setting for when you are and higher for when you are not.

    Also the same guy has done numerous ride alongs and according to him not all cops leave their radars on all the time. When they are driving around. If they see uouw going faster than others they may flip it on to see what you are doing.This is obviously to try counteract the detectors.

    From my experience riding with him he has been able to avoid a few speed traps since they pretty much always have their radar on but other than that it has mixed results.

    His dad also has one that doesn't work at all so make sure to get a good one.



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    I have a valentine one hardwired into my mirror. Around town in does a lot if false positives but once you get use to the different sounds it makes, you figure out witch one is for real. Works great on the interstate and I feel naked driving without one.

    if you get one, get a good one. Either a v1 or Escort 9500.


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    just got 3rd speeding ticket myself this weekend in the last 12 months. (2) were 6-10 mph over in a 65 and the third was a 5mph over in a 25. thank you university heights police, the kinnick stadium area is much safer because of your efforts to slow wreckless individuals like myself... for the record I was legitimately at 5 over, that wasn't a reduction.

    I will contest the last one in hopes the cop no shows. if they do, I will request to pay the fine but have the ticket waived. last resort is take the class to avoid losing license. Will be purchasing a radar detector and just using cruise control at all times. my problem isnt even that I intend to speed, I just dont pay attention and am suddenly going 10 over without knowing. I also drive 50k+ miles a year, so my odds of getting ticketed are increased simply due to time spent on the road.



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    Quote Originally Posted by stevefrench View Post
    just got 3rd speeding ticket myself this weekend in the last 12 months. (2) were 6-10 mph over in a 65 and the third was a 5mph over in a 25. thank you university heights police, the kinnick stadium area is much safer because of your efforts to slow wreckless individuals like myself... for the record I was legitimately at 5 over, that wasn't a reduction.

    I will contest the last one in hopes the cop no shows. if they do, I will request to pay the fine but have the ticket waived. last resort is take the class to avoid losing license. Will be purchasing a radar detector and just using cruise control at all times. my problem isnt even that I intend to speed, I just dont pay attention and am suddenly going 10 over without knowing. I also drive 50k+ miles a year, so my odds of getting ticketed are increased simply due to time spent on the road.
    Wouldn't the paying attention part be the reason they're giving those tickets?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Wouldn't the paying attention part be the reason they're giving those tickets?
    sure. but what I'm saying is that I am not making a concerted effort to go 90 on the interstate. I have just been rather unlucky it would seem with running into cops at inopportune times. For the most part I try to stay within a reasonable proximity to the posted limit, but clearly have some lapses from time to time.

    for what it's worth, I dont think someone should face license suspension for minor moving violations. fines and maybe safe druver school, sure. But I mean it seems people can get multiple DUI's and still maintain their ability to drive. but a guy that gets popped for going 6-10 over a few times loses his? that's cray cray



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    Quote Originally Posted by stevefrench View Post
    sure. but what I'm saying is that I am not making a concerted effort to go 90 on the interstate. I have just been rather unlucky it would seem with running into cops at inopportune times. For the most part I try to stay within a reasonable proximity to the posted limit, but clearly have some lapses from time to time.

    for what it's worth, I dont think someone should face license suspension for minor moving violations. fines and maybe safe druver school, sure. But I mean it seems people can get multiple DUI's and still maintain their ability to drive. but a guy that gets popped for going 6-10 over a few times loses his? that's cray cray
    Agreed. I once got pulled over for going 37 in a 35. They should spend there time doing something more useful.



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    Re: Speeding Ticket Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by packattack425 View Post
    Not to derail but do those radar detectors work? I am thinking about getting one with my 24 hour drive coming up next month.
    I've had one for a couple of years now, and I have to say it has saved me several tickets. The only thing it doesn't save you from is Laser. There's a laser warning on it, but by the time it sounds they've already got you. But I'm finding that laser is really only being used in the city rather than highway.


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    Re: Speeding Ticket Questions

    I got pulled over in Des Moines for going 5 over. The location he was at when he had his radar gun out was right where it turned from a 60mph to 55. He got me for 1-5 over.

    He asked me how my record was (they already know this)
    I said it was good, he came back and said "you're right it was good, now here's a ticket."



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    Re: Speeding Ticket Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    I have a valentine one hardwired into my mirror. Around town in does a lot if false positives but once you get use to the different sounds it makes, you figure out witch one is for real. Works great on the interstate and I feel naked driving without one.

    if you get one, get a good one. Either a v1 or Escort 9500.
    Totally agree. I wont go on any trip of distance without my V1. I would not even mess with anything else, as they tend to have a few leds and beeps that go nuts everywhere, and are not able to give you enough information to rely on. The V1 is $399 well spent, imho.

    In terms of fighting tickets, I nearly always contest the ticket and go to court. I lost my license once due to not fighting, and I will never do that again. Another govt cash grab for those who are not informed about the law and system in my opinion. If you contest the ticket, you have a decent chance of winning. I am something like 9-0 versus both city and state law enforcement in Oregon. Iowa is not that different. Here are my steps to winning:

    1. When you get pulled over, be courteous. Do not admit anything however. Take note of all the surroundings mentally. You will have time to take notes when the officer is doing your paperwork. Get out a notepad and jot down what was said, weather conditions, traffic conditions, etc.
    2. Show up to contest the ticket, or notify the office that you are contesting. In Oregon, you show up to say you are "not guilty" if you want to contest. They schedule a court date for you after that. The clerks here are programmed to talk you into pleading "guilty" or "no contest" which is not really too much difference. Either way they get your $$ without any more discussion.
    3. Prepare for court. Go to the local law library or online and look up the statute you violated, allegedly. Note if the officer was correct in what he wrote the violation for. Often there is some doubt if they noted everything correct on the ticket. Copy the statute, and study it. Print a copy for court, along with a photocopy of the ticket.
    4. Once in court, have all your documents ready, along with possible photographs of the scene of your violation. With smartphones, printing photos of the location of the violation may be helpful and necessary. I have done this a time or two to help explain the situation.
    5. In court, dress nice, shave/prep appearance wise. In my experience, even as a younger adult (say 30 years old or less) there are people that come in to court with hats on sideways, pants sagging of their ***, unshaven, etc. Obviously do not be one of these people.....they are typically guilty by appearance alone. My thoughts are, be professional, polite, and confident. Dress for a job interview.
    6. Once in court, the judge will have the officer (if they show up....this is hit and miss in terms of percentage of their attendance) present his side of the violation. Typically they have a small notepad that states very little in terms of the violation....basically saying he was in a patrol car, in uniform, and clocked/observed you speeding/doing something illegal. After this, you have your turn to present your own case.
    7. I typically thank the judge for hearing my side, as well as I thank the officer for being there and serving the community. This is being professional, and kissing a little *** at the same time. Cops do not have easy jobs, and you are showing that you recognize this. Its respectful, timely, and important in court. After that, present your side of the story. Be honest, present facts, and other information that may place some doubt in the judge's mind. If there could have been a mistake in the facts, make sure you present this. Show documents, quote the statute, etc for whatever is applicable here. I typically will not cross examine the officer, as that can be dicey as a regular joe (not attorney). Most judges probably do not want you to do that, as it may ruin your credibility as a "good regular joe".
    7. Thank the judge, and answer their questions if they have any. I have had them ask a few questions most times, and they are usually just clarifying what you have presented. Some times they ask the officer some questions. At this point you are in good shape if you have created any doubt in the mind of the judge. After they have rendered many others in the courtroom guilty (people that are not prepared, saggy pants, disrespectful idiots, etc) you may be given a "not guilty" or at the minimum, a significant reduction in your fine.

    Like I said, I am like 9-0 in court here in Oregon. There were times I was really not guilty, and others I probably was dead to rights. Show up, contest, and let the system figure it out. I have appealed a time or two as well, and that came out in my favor as well. The key is to not have any tickets on your record.....unfortunately. Once you have one, it can snowball....that, and you lose a lot of credibility when you get pulled over again, or if you go to court. Once you are clean....stay that way. I have not had a ticket stick since I moved to Oregon....nearly 17 years. The first year I got my sports car back in 1999 (1991 Nissan 300zx twin turbo) I got pulled over 19 times.....zero tickets that stuck however. I drove nuts, but was also both lucky and smart about dealing with them. I have since mellowed out.....most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXCyclones View Post
    I've had one for a couple of years now, and I have to say it has saved me several tickets. The only thing it doesn't save you from is Laser. There's a laser warning on it, but by the time it sounds they've already got you. But I'm finding that laser is really only being used in the city rather than highway.
    That's another nice thing about the Valentine 1. You can go into the unit and delete it from picking up certain bands. My car has a bunch of lasers and it was going nuts all the time until I turned it off. Like you said, laser is rare and usually by the time you pick it up, they got you. With other bands like KA, you can pick them up for a long ways away. Also now that I'm use to the arrows, it would be hard to use anything else that didn't have them.

    One surprise is that my V1 is not good at picking up the KA band from the speed camera on 235. I know where it's at so it's no big deal but it only gives me about 300 feet of warning. On the mobile speed cameras, I can pick those up over a mile away.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ou812zx View Post
    Totally agree. I wont go on any trip of distance without my V1. I would not even mess with anything else, as they tend to have a few leds and beeps that go nuts everywhere, and are not able to give you enough information to rely on. The V1 is $399 well spent, imho.

    In terms of fighting tickets, I nearly always contest the ticket and go to court. I lost my license once due to not fighting, and I will never do that again. Another govt cash grab for those who are not informed about the law and system in my opinion. If you contest the ticket, you have a decent chance of winning. I am something like 9-0 versus both city and state law enforcement in Oregon. Iowa is not that different. Here are my steps to winning:

    1. When you get pulled over, be courteous. Do not admit anything however. Take note of all the surroundings mentally. You will have time to take notes when the officer is doing your paperwork. Get out a notepad and jot down what was said, weather conditions, traffic conditions, etc.
    2. Show up to contest the ticket, or notify the office that you are contesting. In Oregon, you show up to say you are "not guilty" if you want to contest. They schedule a court date for you after that. The clerks here are programmed to talk you into pleading "guilty" or "no contest" which is not really too much difference. Either way they get your $$ without any more discussion.
    3. Prepare for court. Go to the local law library or online and look up the statute you violated, allegedly. Note if the officer was correct in what he wrote the violation for. Often there is some doubt if they noted everything correct on the ticket. Copy the statute, and study it. Print a copy for court, along with a photocopy of the ticket.
    4. Once in court, have all your documents ready, along with possible photographs of the scene of your violation. With smartphones, printing photos of the location of the violation may be helpful and necessary. I have done this a time or two to help explain the situation.
    5. In court, dress nice, shave/prep appearance wise. In my experience, even as a younger adult (say 30 years old or less) there are people that come in to court with hats on sideways, pants sagging of their ***, unshaven, etc. Obviously do not be one of these people.....they are typically guilty by appearance alone. My thoughts are, be professional, polite, and confident. Dress for a job interview.
    6. Once in court, the judge will have the officer (if they show up....this is hit and miss in terms of percentage of their attendance) present his side of the violation. Typically they have a small notepad that states very little in terms of the violation....basically saying he was in a patrol car, in uniform, and clocked/observed you speeding/doing something illegal. After this, you have your turn to present your own case.
    7. I typically thank the judge for hearing my side, as well as I thank the officer for being there and serving the community. This is being professional, and kissing a little *** at the same time. Cops do not have easy jobs, and you are showing that you recognize this. Its respectful, timely, and important in court. After that, present your side of the story. Be honest, present facts, and other information that may place some doubt in the judge's mind. If there could have been a mistake in the facts, make sure you present this. Show documents, quote the statute, etc for whatever is applicable here. I typically will not cross examine the officer, as that can be dicey as a regular joe (not attorney). Most judges probably do not want you to do that, as it may ruin your credibility as a "good regular joe".
    7. Thank the judge, and answer their questions if they have any. I have had them ask a few questions most times, and they are usually just clarifying what you have presented. Some times they ask the officer some questions. At this point you are in good shape if you have created any doubt in the mind of the judge. After they have rendered many others in the courtroom guilty (people that are not prepared, saggy pants, disrespectful idiots, etc) you may be given a "not guilty" or at the minimum, a significant reduction in your fine.

    Like I said, I am like 9-0 in court here in Oregon. There were times I was really not guilty, and others I probably was dead to rights. Show up, contest, and let the system figure it out. I have appealed a time or two as well, and that came out in my favor as well. The key is to not have any tickets on your record.....unfortunately. Once you have one, it can snowball....that, and you lose a lot of credibility when you get pulled over again, or if you go to court. Once you are clean....stay that way. I have not had a ticket stick since I moved to Oregon....nearly 17 years. The first year I got my sports car back in 1999 (1991 Nissan 300zx twin turbo) I got pulled over 19 times.....zero tickets that stuck however. I drove nuts, but was also both lucky and smart about dealing with them. I have since mellowed out.....most of the time.

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    Sounds like an awful lot of work. I think slowing down a bit is a lot easier.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclones_R_GR8 View Post
    Sounds like an awful lot of work. I think slowing down a bit is a lot easier.
    My thought as well. Didn't know i was going through so much trouble to follow the law that contesting it is easier...



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    A friend of mine used to have a red mustang convertible which he drove too fast most of the time. He was pulled over all the time. His strategy was to call his small town lawyer who would contest the ticket and at worse case plea the ticket down to a non moving violation while agreeing to pay the full fine. Seemed to work pretty well for him as he never lost his license. 10 years ago his lawyer only charged him about $100 for each incident. (small town lawyer).


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    Quote Originally Posted by ou812zx View Post
    Totally agree. I wont go on any trip of distance without my V1. I would not even mess with anything else, as they tend to have a few leds and beeps that go nuts everywhere, and are not able to give you enough information to rely on. The V1 is $399 well spent, imho.

    In terms of fighting tickets, I nearly always contest the ticket and go to court. I lost my license once due to not fighting, and I will never do that again. Another govt cash grab for those who are not informed about the law and system in my opinion. If you contest the ticket, you have a decent chance of winning. I am something like 9-0 versus both city and state law enforcement in Oregon. Iowa is not that different. Here are my steps to winning:

    1. When you get pulled over, be courteous. Do not admit anything however. Take note of all the surroundings mentally. You will have time to take notes when the officer is doing your paperwork. Get out a notepad and jot down what was said, weather conditions, traffic conditions, etc.
    2. Show up to contest the ticket, or notify the office that you are contesting. In Oregon, you show up to say you are "not guilty" if you want to contest. They schedule a court date for you after that. The clerks here are programmed to talk you into pleading "guilty" or "no contest" which is not really too much difference. Either way they get your $$ without any more discussion.
    3. Prepare for court. Go to the local law library or online and look up the statute you violated, allegedly. Note if the officer was correct in what he wrote the violation for. Often there is some doubt if they noted everything correct on the ticket. Copy the statute, and study it. Print a copy for court, along with a photocopy of the ticket.
    4. Once in court, have all your documents ready, along with possible photographs of the scene of your violation. With smartphones, printing photos of the location of the violation may be helpful and necessary. I have done this a time or two to help explain the situation.
    5. In court, dress nice, shave/prep appearance wise. In my experience, even as a younger adult (say 30 years old or less) there are people that come in to court with hats on sideways, pants sagging of their ***, unshaven, etc. Obviously do not be one of these people.....they are typically guilty by appearance alone. My thoughts are, be professional, polite, and confident. Dress for a job interview.
    6. Once in court, the judge will have the officer (if they show up....this is hit and miss in terms of percentage of their attendance) present his side of the violation. Typically they have a small notepad that states very little in terms of the violation....basically saying he was in a patrol car, in uniform, and clocked/observed you speeding/doing something illegal. After this, you have your turn to present your own case.
    7. I typically thank the judge for hearing my side, as well as I thank the officer for being there and serving the community. This is being professional, and kissing a little *** at the same time. Cops do not have easy jobs, and you are showing that you recognize this. Its respectful, timely, and important in court. After that, present your side of the story. Be honest, present facts, and other information that may place some doubt in the judge's mind. If there could have been a mistake in the facts, make sure you present this. Show documents, quote the statute, etc for whatever is applicable here. I typically will not cross examine the officer, as that can be dicey as a regular joe (not attorney). Most judges probably do not want you to do that, as it may ruin your credibility as a "good regular joe".
    7. Thank the judge, and answer their questions if they have any. I have had them ask a few questions most times, and they are usually just clarifying what you have presented. Some times they ask the officer some questions. At this point you are in good shape if you have created any doubt in the mind of the judge. After they have rendered many others in the courtroom guilty (people that are not prepared, saggy pants, disrespectful idiots, etc) you may be given a "not guilty" or at the minimum, a significant reduction in your fine.

    Like I said, I am like 9-0 in court here in Oregon. There were times I was really not guilty, and others I probably was dead to rights. Show up, contest, and let the system figure it out. I have appealed a time or two as well, and that came out in my favor as well. The key is to not have any tickets on your record.....unfortunately. Once you have one, it can snowball....that, and you lose a lot of credibility when you get pulled over again, or if you go to court. Once you are clean....stay that way. I have not had a ticket stick since I moved to Oregon....nearly 17 years. The first year I got my sports car back in 1999 (1991 Nissan 300zx twin turbo) I got pulled over 19 times.....zero tickets that stuck however. I drove nuts, but was also both lucky and smart about dealing with them. I have since mellowed out.....most of the time.

    Good luck.....get a Valentine 1 too.
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