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    Re: Proposed CIML Split

    I go to Valley and agree that it is too big. We should either give some territory to Urbandale, because there are kids that go to Valley who live closer to Urbandale HS, or take the kids who go to Waukee but live closer to Valley, put them in the WDM district and build a second high school. The western/southwestern high school would be dominant, though. I can honestly say that I do not know of one athlete that has or will contribute at the varsity level that lives east of 22nd street, which is like 1/3 of the district.



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    Re: Proposed CIML Split

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddykane View Post
    It doesn't really matter cuz dowling beats them in everything. And how is dowling allowed to recruit players to go there.
    Dowling doesn't beat valley in everything, people just assume that because they won state in football and girls basketball. I have no clue how they can recruit, but the fact that they deny it is laughable. I have friends who have been approached by coaches at athletic events, offering scholarships, free lunch, etc.
    Dowling would be terrible if they didn't recruit, and they know it too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerCyJM View Post
    Dowling doesn't beat valley in everything, people just assume that because they won state in football and girls basketball. I have no clue how they can recruit, but the fact that they deny it is laughable. I have friends who have been approached by coaches at athletic events, offering scholarships, free lunch, etc.
    Dowling would be terrible if they didn't recruit, and they know it too.
    The whole recruiting thing is a tired-*** angle in high school sports, especially with open enrollment. And I say this as a public school alum who absolutely hated private schools when I was in high school.


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    Re: Proposed CIML Split

    Quote Originally Posted by tm3308 View Post
    The whole recruiting thing is a tired-*** angle in high school sports, especially with open enrollment. And I say this as a public school alum who absolutely hated private schools when I was in high school.
    Do kids that transfer to a private school have to sit out like the kids that open enroll? Serious question.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ISU42 View Post
    Do kids that transfer to a private school have to sit out like the kids that open enroll? Serious question.
    I'd assume so, since that's an IHSAA rule, and private schools are still subject to those rules. However, when I think about the people that transferred into my HS (private), none of the transfer kids really played sports, or they just went from public middle schools into our HS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cloneswereall View Post
    I'd assume so, since that's an IHSAA rule, and private schools are still subject to those rules. However, when I think about the people that transferred into my HS (private), none of the transfer kids really played sports, or they just went from public middle schools into our HS.
    He might have moved, but Rico Gafford transferred from Des Moines East and was one of the big reasons Dowling won last season's title.


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    Re: Proposed CIML Split

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclones2015 View Post

    Coming from a school with that size roughly (2400 total) and friends that have been to larger and been to smaller. I'll take the bigger all day every day. The amount of resources to hire the best teachers, get the best tools, the involvement, you can be as big or as small as you want and no one will care. The arts and music departments are amazing (if you're into that). Because of the size, it prepared me for college at a big university. There were a ton, A TON, of people I met that dropped out because ISU was too big and they couldn't handle it. These people were coming from the Baxter's and Andrew High Schools of Iowa. Small 20 or less graduating classes.

    There were also kids from big schools that dropped out. I have a class of 85, we have Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, Accounts, MIS, and other very successful people in my class. We also could be involved in everything we wanted had the ability to AP classes, have fun and be known in the community. I know people that graduated at towards the top of their 2000 student class that struggled with college. Believe it or not there are people that leave a large school district and go to a smaller one because the experience is better.


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    Re: Proposed CIML Split

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddykane View Post
    It doesn't really matter cuz dowling beats them in everything. And how is dowling allowed to recruit players to go there.
    Just like every school in the state can. The same rules apply.


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    Re: Proposed CIML Split

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Just like every school in the state can. The same rules apply.
    If you open enroll, it costs something like $6000. Dowling or any other private school has the ability to allow a kid to attend for free.



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    Re: Proposed CIML Split

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU42 View Post
    Do kids that transfer to a private school have to sit out like the kids that open enroll? Serious question.
    I believe they have to sit 90 days and it really only affects those that participate in winter sports as fall and spring athletes may time it up to serve their 90 days in their sport's offseason.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerCyJM View Post
    If you open enroll, it costs something like $6000. Dowling or any other private school has the ability to allow a kid to attend for free.
    And private schools don't receive the public funds to operate their schools, and rely on tuition to keep the doors open. What real benefit would a private school have to waive the 5-10K tuition fee?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerCyJM View Post
    If you open enroll, it costs something like $6000. Dowling or any other private school has the ability to allow a kid to attend for free.
    It doesn't cost you anything to open enroll.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddykane View Post
    how should you be able to get a kid to come play for you if he lives in a different school district?
    What?


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    Re: Proposed CIML Split

    Quote Originally Posted by cloneswereall View Post
    And private schools don't receive the public funds to operate their schools, and rely on tuition to keep the doors open. What real benefit would a private school have to waive the 5-10K tuition fee?
    There isn't one. There's this stigma that all the private schools are super rich and can just give away money when in reality most of those schools
    are also very financially constrained. The "scholarships" people ***** about are financial aid that's given based on predetermined criteria that is available to all students.



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    Re: Proposed CIML Split

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    It doesn't cost you anything to open enroll.
    This says it's like 6 grand
    https://www.educateiowa.gov/pk-12/op...pen-enrollment

    There are also municipalities like the city of Des Moines that restrict open enrollment, as well



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