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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by aauummm View Post
    I emailed Tom Miller, the State Attorney General, to get a clarification on that question. Haws only calls himself "retired professor" not a "retired professor emeritus".
    You must be joking. You didn't acutally contact the state attorney general because a retired professor uses his ISU email account did you?

    I would have to believe that ISU allows retired professors to use their old email as a professional courtesy if anything. If ISU didn't want it to be used it would be disabled.

    Holy mountain out of mole hill.


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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by CyDude16 View Post
    I see no problem with this opinion piece. When this finally goes to civil trial, bubu may look a lot worse in the end.

    Shall be interesting. It's a shame he couldn't just let it die out and move onto CSU.
    Eating $50,000 worth of legal fees would make me second guess 'just letting it die out'...



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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by aauummm View Post
    I emailed Tom Miller, the State Attorney General, to get a clarification on that question. Haws only calls himself "retired professor" not a "retired professor emeritus".

    This may be the site's most desperate "gotcha" attempt ever.
    Since we're on that track, Richard Haws is on the ISU list of Emeritus faculty:

    http://www.provost.iastate.edu/resources/emeritus

    It's alphabetical. You'll find him under "H".


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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by aauummm View Post
    If he's going to hold himself up to be a professional and a professor he should pay attention to details. If he doesn't he loses credibility. The devil's in the details. And yes I did email the State Attorney General and also Iowa State through their website iastate.edu.
    Really? People that do **** like you are the exact reason why I'm glad that people complain that it's difficult to fire public workers for frivolous things like this. You're literally looking for a reason to get this person in trouble for merely writing an opinion piece.


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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by aauummm View Post
    Good catch. Now we'll see if a professor emeritus gets a free State email address for life. (maybe so, and if it is maybe the public would like to know what all perks that a professor emeritus gets free for life)
    Go use the Google.
    I hope they do have that for life. It's nice to see benefits earned after a nice career.


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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    In case there's a struggle over this:
    http://www.isualum.org/en/groups__cl...fits_from_isu/

    If he renews it once a year, he's good to go. Continue the crisis now.


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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by aauummm View Post
    Good catch. Now we'll see if a professor emeritus gets a free State email address for life. (maybe so, and if it is maybe the public would like to know what all perks that a professor emeritus gets free for life)
    You do realize "email" is a method of transferring electronic messages and not a type of car, don't you Grandpa?


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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by Incyte View Post
    You do realize "email" is a method of transferring electronic messages and not a type of car, don't you Grandpa?
    Minor observation - having the ISU domain on the email could lend an aura of authenticity that dick.haws at yaddayadda.com would not.

    While I don't think I would have carried it quite as far as aaaauuuuummm, I think it was an honest question. I don't think the "grandpa" was necessary.


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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by aauummm View Post
    I emailed Tom Miller, the State Attorney General, to get a clarification on that question. Haws only calls himself "retired professor" not a "retired professor emeritus".
    The only response I could think of is expressed by these venerable rockers from my high school days...



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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by Incyte View Post
    You do realize "email" is a method of transferring electronic messages and not a type of car, don't you Grandpa?
    Young whipper-snapper get off my lawn. chuckle...dang, I was thinking of going down to the dealership and buying one of those new-fangled "emails" to drive around. Now what am I going to do?



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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by aauummm View Post
    "merely"? The whole piece was about defense of Leath and ISU. One sentence at the end mentioned victims.

    I'd rather not mention this but I will. I am a retired 38 year state employee. The rules about misuse of State property are very tough and have large penalties. I personally know of one state employee who was escorted off of State property by Capital Security and fired because of misuse of State property (management position no less). I knew of other State employees who were severely reprimanded and demoted because of misuse of State property. It is a big deal in State government.
    You have me on years, but I know what the repercussions of misuse of state property are since I'm also a public employee.


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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by ImJustKCClone View Post
    Minor observation - having the ISU domain on the email could lend an aura of authenticity that dick.haws at yaddayadda.com would not.

    While I don't think I would have carried it quite as far as aaaauuuuummm, I think it was an honest question. I don't think the "grandpa" was necessary.
    Sort of. There are an awful lot of idiots with iastate.edu email addys. I don't think it necessarily lends an air of authenticity these days like it maybe used to, just verifies he is who he says he is.


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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by cloneswereall View Post
    Really? People that do **** like you are the exact reason why I'm glad that people complain that it's difficult to fire public workers for frivolous things like this. You're literally looking for a reason to get this person in trouble for merely writing an opinion piece.
    Not only that, but he's probably the reason that most government workers at places like the post office, DOT offices, etc. treat the public like ****. Imagine dealing with idiots like that all day long.



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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    Sort of. There are an awful lot of idiots with iastate.edu email addys. I don't think it necessarily lends an air of authenticity these days like it maybe used to, just verifies he is who he says he is.
    Can't argue that point. I was presenting a possible reason for the question. And those not directly associated with the university might (heavy accent on might) give more credence to arguments/opinions put forward by retired faculty (emeritus or not), even though it's doubtful a retired faculty member from Journalism (I think?) would have any more intimate knowledge than the average citizen of Ames.



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    Re: Dick Haws recent thoughts on Bubu Palo

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycsk View Post
    Hmmm. I wonder where the package came from? So much for his objective journalism. If he were teaching one of his classes, I think he would call for full disclosure of the document, not just his elective references from it.
    Thought usually journalists have two sources to verify the authenticity. Maybe he pulled the plug too soon? Maybe he can publish the report tomorrow on CF.


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