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    Re: JP's short list

    Quote Originally Posted by RubyClone View Post
    Why?

    I know zero about coaching, prospective coaches, up and comers, etc. I could probably name about 20 college coaches outside ISU. So I have zero idea who's likely.

    But TJ is revered here. Has an excellent reputation. Clearly can recruit and has very strong ties to ISU.

    And it's not like our last "no-headcoaching experience" hire didn't work out halfway decent.

    Downside?

    (or are you thinking he may have TOO much coaching experience? )
    I'm not saying I don't think TJ has value, or that he can never be a good coach, but hopefully we are not at a place as a program where we could attract a more proven commodity.

    A guy like TJ in that situation should be a back up option until he proves himself in that role. Fred is the exception. Generally you would like to see some head coaching experience prior to stepping into the role at the B12 level coaching against Bill Self, Bruce Webber, Lon Krueger, Tubby, Rick Barnes, etc



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    Re: JP's short list

    This is why Iowa State needs to invent a cloning machine.



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    Re: JP's short list

    Quote Originally Posted by RubyClone View Post
    Not sure if you were replying to me or not....

    But are you suggesting that TJ would come into the HC job at ISU under even remotely similar circumstances as Fred?

    The man has recruited and sat on the sidelines of college for what? 10 years? Including a couple on our own under what may end up being our best coach EVER. Not to mention under the tutelage of what is considered one of the best offensive minds in the game.
    No one seems to be in a hurry to hire him as a head coach.
    Maybe he's potentially great, maybe not, but nobody seems very eager to hire him for a head coaching job.


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    Re: JP's short list

    Quote Originally Posted by erikbj View Post
    Phil Jackson
    Tom Tibedeau
    Izzo
    Coach K
    Pitino
    Billy Donovan
    Guessing Bill Self would not move inter conference.
    Two of those are on the downstretch of their careers, and will end where they are. Two I don't know much about. Three are coaches that either have real baggage or far too many rumors following them wherever they go. Surely JP can come up with better fits for ISU...



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    Re: JP's short list

    Quote Originally Posted by QCCyclone View Post
    Fred was a huge gamble. A gamble that happened to work out really well. I think Otz could make a great head coach, but he would be another big gamble that may not work out as well. I think many would probably agree that we could attract a more experienced coach at this point in the program.
    Like?

    Every coach is a risk. McDermott and Chizik had all the cred in the world coming in.

    I think some are overstating our position here, given our recent success. Does ANYONE believe Fred would be here at all, or certainly still be sitting over in Sukup today, if he weren't a hometown product? We hit the freaking lottery there boys and girls.

    I just find it funny, that somehow we are now above TJ in many minds. A guy, I'll remind, we COULD NOT POSSIBLY LOSE 4 years ago. Seriously, eveyone's first words when Fred was hired was "what'll happen to TJ?"

    All that said - again, I have zero idea if TJ is worthy. But wow.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by CloneinWDSM View Post
    Fred spends another 5-7 years grooming Charlie Henry to be the next head coach at Michigan after Beilein retires to hold up our end of the deal we struck with the Devil to get Johnny Orr and make all of this possible.
    Corrected.



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    Re: JP's short list

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    No one seems to be in a hurry to hire him as a head coach.
    Maybe he's potentially great, maybe not, but nobody seems very eager to hire him for a head coaching job.
    If CFH stays as most of us hope (till the twins are graduated, either from Gilbert or ISU), that would be plenty of time for TJ to prove himself in a headcoach position at a D2 and/or mid-majors. He could be a viable option in the future. Then again, if our collective dreams come true, I'll likely be dead & buried before CFH retires! ;)



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    Re: JP's short list

    Wow, everyone missed the most important part of the OP.

    Congrats to TJ and Alison. Twins!!!!!



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    Re: JP's short list

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    All I know is this: Don't expect any guys whose better days are behind them. Names like Tubby Smith, etc. Based off of my observations, Pollard is all about finding the next big thing.
    so Phil Jackson is out?



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    Re: JP's short list

    Quote Originally Posted by peteypie View Post
    His short list includes: Begging Fred to stay, begging on one knee for him to stay, begging with a bag of cash and a rose for him to stay, ................................................................................ ................................................................................ ........................Hold mirror up to Fred in the hopes Fred would get lost in his own dreaminess and forget to leave................................................................................ ................................................................................ ................................................................................ ......TJ
    FIFY



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    Re: JP's short list

    Quote Originally Posted by erikbj View Post
    Phil Jackson
    Tom Tibedeau
    Izzo
    Coach K
    Pitino
    Billy Donovan
    Guessing Bill Self would not move inter conference.
    Nailed it, Erik. Nicely done. /thread.


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    Re: JP's short list

    Quote Originally Posted by erikbj View Post
    so Phil Jackson is out?
    This is devastating news. I was looking forward to a little triangle offense to mix it up a little.



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    Re: JP's short list

    Whoever it is... Recruiter 1st, coach 2nd. Josh Pastner wins 75% of his games. That tells me all I need to know.



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