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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by pourcyne View Post
    Sure, what the hell, take your kids everywhere: bars, strip joints, firing ranges, dog fights, crack houses, snuff films... How dare anyone else have an opinion on what is appropriate for YOUR child?!?
    What's wrong with teaching your kid how to be safe and correctly handle a firearm.


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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheGreat View Post
    Then DON'T. Why get the gov't involved?
    Because it could be dangerous for the kids who are there if the crowd is there specifically to get drunk. There's usually a different atmosphere at a dedicated bar than there is at a sports bar/grill type of place. More fights, more tendency to get drunk - and that kid has to drive home with the parent who is there solely to drink.


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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by coolerifyoudid View Post
    I can't read the original story (facebook blocked at work). Can someone copy/paste for me? Does it read like patrons of 515 complained to keep kids out? Is 515 opposed to it?

    While I don't think it's a good idea for kids to be in a current bar setting, I think each establishment should have that final say. It would surprise me to have a bar want to allow kids if even a quarter of their customers have an issue with it.
    I believe that at least one of the owners of 515 has children. I would guess they'd want to visit Daddy at work on occasion, and I think this would prevent that from being possible?


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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by pourcyne View Post
    Sure, what the hell, take your kids everywhere: bars, strip joints, firing ranges, dog fights, crack houses, snuff films... How dare anyone else have an opinion on what is appropriate for YOUR child?!?

    Yes, porky, we're all bad parents...let them watch TV, take 'em to whorehouses, etc.




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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by pourcyne View Post
    Sure, what the hell, take your kids everywhere: bars, strip joints, firing ranges, dog fights, crack houses, snuff films... How dare anyone else have an opinion on what is appropriate for YOUR child?!?
    I love extremism



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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by 00clone View Post
    Yes, porky, we're all bad parents...let them watch TV, take 'em to whorehouses, etc.

    Did he ever come back to your thread after I asked him if he had kids?



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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    If its a bar bar and most of their money is from beverages, then I wouldnt allow kids in either. Or as a parent I wouldnt bring my kid to in the first place. (however shouldnt be a city decision)

    If most of money is from food, then kids should be okay, but that should be up to the resturant, bar, and or parents, not the freaking city.



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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Tedcyclone View Post
    If its a bar bar and most of their money is from beverages, then I wouldnt allow kids in either. Or as a parent I wouldnt bring my kid to in the first place. (however shouldnt be a city decision)

    If most of money is from food, then kids should be okay, but that should be up to the resturant, bar, and or parents, not the freaking city.
    Winning post This thread is now over. Peace OUT!!!


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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by mj4cy View Post
    ....if its late at night and you're just there to drink/let loose...then that seems a bit weird.
    It comes down to priorities. Some Parents need to booze and rather spend their last $10 on beer in a tavern with their kids in tow, and not pay a babysitter

    oh, and they're driving home half sh#t-faced with kids riding shotgun. yet another criminal offense



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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    Because it could be dangerous for the kids who are there if the crowd is there specifically to get drunk. There's usually a different atmosphere at a dedicated bar than there is at a sports bar/grill type of place. More fights, more tendency to get drunk - and that kid has to drive home with the parent who is there solely to drink.
    Or possibly the parent is enjoying a non-excessive level of alcohol, as are the other patrons.

    I've spent a lot of time in bars. I can count on one hand the number of bar fights I've seen.


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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    Or possibly the parent is enjoying a non-excessive level of alcohol, as are the other patrons.

    I've spent a lot of time in bars. I can count on one hand the number of bar fights I've seen.

    I've come to the conclusion that your urban/rural analysis is spot on, and it's also not worth arguing with the people who have never experienced anything other than bars being for drunks or people looking to get falling down drunk, but only go to bars so they're not drinking alone.

    Never mind that there's a much healthier relationship with alcohol possible...where it's not treated as self medication to avoid one's problems, or it isn't treated as the front door key to hell...



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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    Or possibly the parent is enjoying a non-excessive level of alcohol, as are the other patrons.

    I've spent a lot of time in bars. I can count on one hand the number of bar fights I've seen.
    I think this is probably fair, although I'm trying to think of what scenario in which I'd even want to bring my kids with me to a non-restaurant bar. Some sort of private event, I suppose, otherwise if I just want a drink after work or something I'd grab a six-pack on my way home before I'd mess around with loading them up to head out to the bar. That just sounds like a pain in the ***.



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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    Or possibly the parent is enjoying a non-excessive level of alcohol, as are the other patrons.

    I've spent a lot of time in bars. I can count on one hand the number of bar fights I've seen.
    I'm thinking of going to Whiskey River or Sporty's (non-campus type of bars) on a Friday night at 10. There may not be a ton of fights, but I rarely see anyone in condition to drive a child anywhere. And it just seems a little bit rougher (language, things you see, etc.) at that time of night than if a child goes to a bar at, say, 3 in the afternoon to play Pac-Man while Dad visits. The intentions of the patrons are usually different.


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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by 00clone View Post
    I've come to the conclusion that your urban/rural analysis is spot on, and it's also not worth arguing with the people who have never experienced anything other than bars being for drunks or people looking to get falling down drunk, but only go to bars so they're not drinking alone.

    Never mind that there's a much healthier relationship with alcohol possible...where it's not treated as self medication to avoid one's problems, or it isn't treated as the front door key to hell...
    Actually, I went to bars with family members when I was little, both rural and in towns of, say, 12k. I just know I'd never take my child to one, especially not at 10 at night. I'll take her to Wallaby's or BWW, but not to a place like Deano's. If we wanted to drink and not get a babysitter, we'd just invite people over.


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    Re: Kids in a bar/Thoughts

    All of that being said - I think 515 isn't going to be the type of place to encourage its patrons to get trashed and bring kids. It seems like a classier type of place than that, so this ordinance is a bit restrictive and not taking into account the type of establishment.


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