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    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    Centers remain valuable, just more so for providing rim protection and anchoring defenses, not necessarily the offense. Howard, pre-meltdown Hibbert, Marc Gasol all fall into that camp. Hell, look at how many experts have pinned Golden State's playoff chances on Bogut's health the last couple years. The post-championship Mavs didn't fall apart because they lost Tyson Chandler's offense. And so on and so forth.
    Noah, a good coach, and a bunch of role players other teams passed on virtually tied for 3rd in the east last year. If a true center can be really active it's a rare advantage to have.



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    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    Noah, a good coach, and a bunch of role players other teams passed on virtually tied for 3rd in the east last year. If a true center can be really active it's a rare advantage to have.
    I knew I was going to forget a good one. Noah is a great example, both for defense and another great asset people overlook when downplaying the role of center's today: passing.



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    Noah does not get injured much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Noah does not get injured much.
    He plays injured with the plantar fasciitis a lot but has avoided the career slowing season long issues some players with the same build have.

    I've yet to see a player who looked as injury prone as oden going in the top 3. Dude was hobbling around like an old man at 19. I wouldn't put embiid in that category at all.



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    Quote Originally Posted by twocoach View Post
    Sure looked to be playing center out there to me. He hasn't played PF for several years.
    Tim Duncan is a power forward. Regardless of where he is and who he's defending in the floor. He's filling the 5 spot, but he's not a center. Unless you consider Georges Niang a center which I'm not sure who would.


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    Quote Originally Posted by twocoach View Post
    The back and feet of every 7 foot person, let alone NBA center, are a ticking time bomb.
    Which is why the NBA is going away from 7 footers as franchise players.


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    Shortt list of franchise players are 6-6 James Harden, 6-8 Lebron, 6-7 Kobe, 7-0 Dirk, 6-10 Cousins, 6-3 Derrick, 6-10 Love, 7-0 Kevin, 6-2 JWall, 6-8 Carmelo, 6-2 DamienL. Who else? And no, 6-10 Dwight Howard is still looking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Shortt list of franchise players are 6-6 James Harden, 6-8 Lebron, 6-7 Kobe, 7-0 Dirk, 6-10 Cousins, 6-3 Derrick, 6-10 Love, 7-0 Kevin, 6-2 JWall, 6-8 Carmelo, 6-2 DamienL. Who else? And no, 6-10 Dwight Howard is still looking.
    So in Wesley-bot world broken down Kobe and DeMarcus Cousins make the cut for "franchise guys" but Howard and Marc Gasol don't?



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    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard4Cy View Post
    Tim Duncan is a power forward. Regardless of where he is and who he's defending in the floor. He's filling the 5 spot, but he's not a center. Unless you consider Georges Niang a center which I'm not sure who would.
    Duncan has always been an easy guy to make fit either side of the argument. You can easily twist his role to PF or C. Really I don't think it matters much. Maybe the days of every stiff taller than 6'10" getting drafted out of college solely "because Shaq" are over, but it's stupid to say that a potentially dominant post player no longer has any value.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Shortt list of franchise players are 6-6 James Harden, 6-8 Lebron, 6-7 Kobe, 7-0 Dirk, 6-10 Cousins, 6-3 Derrick, 6-10 Love, 7-0 Kevin, 6-2 JWall, 6-8 Carmelo, 6-2 DamienL. Who else? And no, 6-10 Dwight Howard is still looking.
    This list is....interesting.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CyJack13 View Post
    This list is....interesting.
    I'm not sure how I glazed over Damian Lillard on the list first time through. That's....yea, interesting is a good description.



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    Didn't see this posted yet.

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    First round for Kane would be huge.
    I love Napier but IMO, they have to draft DeAndre Kane there barring someone really falling. It just makes sense. He's ready to play in the NBA. They need a PG and they could use someone who creates a matchup where you have two large guys on the perimeter and no natural matchup for pure PGs. Besides, his skillset is similar to Wades so he provides multiple option positionally. I just really think that pick is obvious for them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    I'm not sure how I glazed over Damian Lillard on the list first time through. That's....yea, interesting is a good description.
    I wouldn't call Wall a franchise guy just yet either, neither are Dirk or Kobe at this point in their career and Rose is a huge question mark too, no mention of Westbrook, Noah, CP3, Blake or LaMarcus or Marc Gasol like you mentioned.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard4Cy View Post
    Tim Duncan is a power forward. Regardless of where he is and who he's defending in the floor. He's filling the 5 spot, but he's not a center. Unless you consider Georges Niang a center which I'm not sure who would.
    Are you comparing Georges Niang's play style to Duncan's? Niang 3 point attempts in March 8th game vs. Oklahoma State = 9. Tim Duncan's 3 point attempts in entire 2014 NBA season = 5. I assume most of those were end of quarter chucks, not actual in game attempts. Come on.



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