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    Re: Promise Rings

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    For the same reason there are people that thinking pushing abstinence-only sex education is a good idea, and I'm sure it's pretty much the same people pulling this crap with their kids.
    Yikes. That seems like such a terrible, oppressive idea that is pretty much sure to make a child rebel. Arm them with info, and they can make an actual decision.

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    Re: Promise Rings

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    Yikes. That seems like such a terrible, oppressive idea that is pretty much sure to make a child rebel. Arm them with info, and they can make an actual decision.

    Two words on abstinence-only ed: Bristol Palin
    I agree. The whole thing has this creepy feel of protecting your daughter's property value so she can fetch a high dowry when the time is right. It also seems brainwash-y and abusive. Just ugly all around.



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    Re: Promise Rings

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    As is the 3 months salary guideline for engagement rings.

    The diamond industry has literally tons of diamonds - including small ones - in storage and the only way to move more of them without affecting the artificially high prices they have groomed over decades is to increase demand. The promise ring was one (failed, I thought, but maybe not entirely) attempt at increasing demand for some of the smaller inventory.

    One of my favorite things lately is the huge ad campaign for "chocolate diamonds". They take common unacceptable diamonds due to poor color which would normally be simply used as industrial diamonds and tout them as something unique and desireable and try to get people to pay a premium for them.

    If you have time and are interested read up on the diamond industry. Talk about an industry creating a demand - these guys were brilliant at it.
    Yeah, I didn't get anywhere near that and her rings are still pretty sparkly.



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    Re: Promise Rings

    The only reason I could see buying one is to get some, and this is the only way to prove your love.



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    Re: Promise Rings

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    As is the 3 months salary guideline for engagement rings.

    The diamond industry has literally tons of diamonds - including small ones - in storage and the only way to move more of them without affecting the artificially high prices they have groomed over decades is to increase demand. The promise ring was one (failed, I thought, but maybe not entirely) attempt at increasing demand for some of the smaller inventory.

    One of my favorite things lately is the huge ad campaign for "chocolate diamonds". They take common unacceptable diamonds due to poor color which would normally be simply used as industrial diamonds and tout them as something unique and desireable and try to get people to pay a premium for them.

    If you have time and are interested read up on the diamond industry. Talk about an industry creating a demand - these guys were brilliant at it.
    I'm not trying to brag about my pay or anything, but my wife's engagement ring is a REALLY nice diamond, and it wasn't 3 months salary!



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    Re: Promise Rings

    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheGreat View Post
    I'm not trying to brag about my pay or anything, but my wife's engagement ring is a REALLY nice diamond, and it wasn't 3 months salary!
    Yeah, I took the tack that it is 3 months pay after taxes and expenses. In that case I overspent!


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    Re: Promise Rings

    I always kind of thought the 3 months thing was more to give you a chance to think hard about marriage.



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    Re: Promise Rings

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrocksmypants View Post
    Really, engagement rings are the same, just with a slightly longer history.
    Youre preaching to the choir now.


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    Re: Promise Rings

    Quote Originally Posted by isubeatle View Post
    This is a thing? that seems really creepy to me.

    I think it depends on the family. I've only really heard about it for some Christian circles. It's supposed to be a promise to her parents or dad.... I have no idea if people still do that or what the circumstances would be.





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    Re: Promise Rings

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    I don't think I've heard of dads giving their daughters purity/promise rings. Is it like when a girl gets her own purity ring to promise to stay a virgin? Why would a dad get involved in that decision? That seems really creepy, unless I'm missing something.

    I don't think that the idea of a promise ring is necessary, overall. I don't really get why a college couple would do it, just wait until you have money for the real thing? My husband was going to get me one, told one of his female friends about it, and she explained to him that it was pretty insulting to do at 24 years old.

    I don't remember if it's a dad/daughter promise or parental....It could be just the girl's idea too. I remember hearing about it a lot during high school. At the time I thought it was a promise to the parents....





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    Re: Promise Rings

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    I agree. The whole thing has this creepy feel of protecting your daughter's property value so she can fetch a high dowry when the time is right. It also seems brainwash-y and abusive. Just ugly all around.

    As far as abusive/oppressive/brainwash-y I think it depends on how the parents go about it. When I was in high school it was more 'the thing to do' or at least talk about with the daughter. The girl could always not agree/promise..... or they go ahead and break it anyway (nothing is stopping them).





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    Re: Promise Rings

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    I don't think I've heard of dads giving their daughters purity/promise rings. Is it like when a girl gets her own purity ring to promise to stay a virgin? Why would a dad get involved in that decision? That seems really creepy, unless I'm missing something.

    I don't think that the idea of a promise ring is necessary, overall. I don't really get why a college couple would do it, just wait until you have money for the real thing? My husband was going to get me one, told one of his female friends about it, and she explained to him that it was pretty insulting to do at 24 years old.
    I do think that parents (both mothers and fathers) should talk to their children about sex. Not guiding a teenager or at least talking with them about sex is foolish as they are full of hormones with little impulse control or skills to function in a serious relationship. Kids are becoming incredibly promiscuous at younger ages and it is not healthy. As far as a promise ring, they are a waste of time and money. I was young and bought one at Ames Silversmithing for my girlfriend about 20 years ago. I am sure she got a pretty penny for it at the pawn shop, but I guess it was a lot cheaper than a divorce.



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    Re: Promise Rings

    Haven't read a single thing in this thread, just saw the title and all I have to say is...

    Promise rings, NO!



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    Re: Promise Rings

    Quote Originally Posted by JVAR View Post
    I do think that parents (both mothers and fathers) should talk to their children about sex. Not guiding a teenager or at least talking with them about sex is foolish as they are full of hormones with little impulse control or skills to function in a serious relationship. Kids are becoming incredibly promiscuous at younger ages and it is not healthy. As far as a promise ring, they are a waste of time and money. I was young and bought one at Ames Silversmithing for my girlfriend about 20 years ago. I am sure she got a pretty penny for it at the pawn shop, but I guess it was a lot cheaper than a divorce.
    I agree parents should talk to their kids about sex, but I disagree that my generation is much more promiscuous than previous ones, and apparently research (or at least 2009 research) agrees with me. I agree it feels that way, but I think that has more to do with how media handles it than what is actually happening.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/27/he...well.html?_r=0



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    Re: Promise Rings

    Quote Originally Posted by JVAR View Post
    I do think that parents (both mothers and fathers) should talk to their children about sex. Not guiding a teenager or at least talking with them about sex is foolish as they are full of hormones with little impulse control or skills to function in a serious relationship. Kids are becoming incredibly promiscuous at younger ages and it is not healthy. As far as a promise ring, they are a waste of time and money. I was young and bought one at Ames Silversmithing for my girlfriend about 20 years ago. I am sure she got a pretty penny for it at the pawn shop, but I guess it was a lot cheaper than a divorce.
    I think talking about it is smart, too. It not only has an important discussion with kids that helps educate them and teach them WHY they should wait and/or be careful (which to me ultimately does more good than a chastity ring, because it comes from a place of communication). It also fosters good communication with your kids, and lets them know that they can come to you if they need birth control, help, etc. It's impractical to think no kids are going to have sex, but we can help make it smarter by just talking to them.


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