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    Re: Klenakis impact

    I don't think it is news that Rhoads is a couch that is tough on his players. He also motivates them and shows that he actually does care about them. That is a key part.

    But in general, I think the more friendly player coach dynamic is left up to the position coaches.

    The head coach of a football team is a CEO and has less leeway to be friendly and easy going all the time.

    Not that it hasn't bit Rhoads in the *** a few times. I think sometimes Rhoads puts too much pressure on certain players without balancing it as much as might be ideal, but nobody is perfect.



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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    They can take notes from Hoiberg but Rhoads isn't known by anyone on the football team as a player's coach. He's from the "hard work makes you successful and if you're failing you need to work harder" mentality and it doesn't resonate with the players.
    Quote Originally Posted by clone26 View Post
    I have heard this from current players as well.
    I have heard a lot of posters on this board are full of ****.



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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Quote Originally Posted by SpokaneCY View Post
    Guess the gridiron club needs to buy CPR an Xbox and lessons so he can actually learn to "bond" with kids of that generation. Way better to hang out with your players and play pong or atari or galaga than work hard to make the program and all the participants successful at life stuff.

    What the kids need is a trophy (maybe just a ribbon) for participation... That will make them feel special! Throw in a pizza party once in a while and CPR will be just one of the guys... Straight from the Saban book of Excellence!
    Is that the one with the LSU cover or the Alabama cover?




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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesaclone1 View Post
    Again, that would say much more about our players than our coaches. Personally, I believe our guys to be of much better caliber than that, and given their inspired play at the end of the season...when the record was 1-9...it seems evident the players DO think the world of Coach Rhoads.
    You really gotta get up to beat Kansas and a WVU team that had given up.



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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Yikes, sounds like a little bit of Rhoads hate going around in here....



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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    You really gotta get up to beat Kansas and a WVU team that had given up.
    yes, because we were a whole lot better than Kansas, and had a whole lot less reason to give up than WVU did.

    But we beat Kansas, and we didn't give up against WVU.

    So, yeah, he inspired them. He got them up.

    Does it make you feel better to take a crap on the players on the football team you claim to cheer for? They went out there and won. Don't be a ********.



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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Quote Originally Posted by Gnomeborg View Post
    yes, because we were a whole lot better than Kansas, and had a whole lot less reason to give up than WVU did.

    But we beat Kansas, and we didn't give up against WVU.

    So, yeah, he inspired them. He got them up.

    Does it make you feel better to take a crap on the players on the football team you claim to cheer for? They went out there and won. Don't be a ********.
    Its a pattern with him. Im sure hes a bigtime donor with season tickets and a whole lot invested in the program so he feels hes entitled to be a dick.



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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesaclone1 View Post
    He's from the "hard work makes you successful and if you're failing you need to work harder" mentality and it doesn't resonate with the players.

    If that didn't resonate with the players, they'd have to be complete morons. Which is why I believe you are full of crap. Hard work is precisely what makes someone successful, and if you aren't succeeding it is 100% correct that you DO need to work harder.
    AMEN!



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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused View Post
    I don't think it is news that Rhoads is a couch that is tough on his players. He also motivates them and shows that he actually does care about them. That is a key part.

    But in general, I think the more friendly player coach dynamic is left up to the position coaches.
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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Quote Originally Posted by Gnomeborg View Post
    yes, because we were a whole lot better than Kansas, and had a whole lot less reason to give up than WVU did.

    But we beat Kansas, and we didn't give up against WVU.

    So, yeah, he inspired them. He got them up.

    Does it make you feel better to take a crap on the players on the football team you claim to cheer for? They went out there and won. Don't be a ********.
    I'm not crapping on the players. I can be a fan of the team but not a fan of the coach.



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    Re: Klenakis impact

    I heard that Rhoads treats his players like they're in a motorcycle gang. Rhoads Angels. Be afraid.


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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclones01 View Post
    So in other words Rhoads is of the common sense mentality? and that doesn't resonate with the players?

    I'm going to go ahead and call BS on that. If that were true I would say we need new players.
    Over working the players is common sense? Have you seen how terrible they've played over the last year and a half?

    You can call BS all you want, but what he is saying is correct. I find it interesting how infallible Rhoads is to a lot of people on here. You don't go on a 1-12 stretch because you are doing everything correctly.



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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Quote Originally Posted by CYphyllis View Post
    Over working the players is common sense? Have you seen how terrible they've played over the last year and a half?

    You can call BS all you want, but what he is saying is correct. I find it interesting how infallible Rhoads is to a lot of people on here. You don't go on a 1-12 stretch because you are doing everything correctly.
    There is no doubt that CPR has not made all the right moves in terms of hires, but the Mangino one to me is a home run. Unfortunately, when you hire a guy that has never been a head coach before there are going to be some growing pains. Danny Mac made some much worse choices in his first couple years than CPR did. CPR also has had really bad luck in terms of injuries and players not showing up. What happened with the OL at ISU last year alone would have ruined any teams season.



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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    There is no doubt that CPR has not made all the right moves in terms of hires, but the Mangino one to me is a home run. Unfortunately, when you hire a guy that has never been a head coach before there are going to be some growing pains. Danny Mac made some much worse choices in his first couple years than CPR did. CPR also has had really bad luck in terms of injuries and players not showing up. What happened with the OL at ISU last year alone would have ruined any teams season.
    I've felt for quite awhile now that Rhoads biggest weakness are his management skills. Solid football coach, but an absolutely terrible manager.

    Some of the mistakes he's made in terms of staffing can be chalked up to inexperience, but some of the other issues are purely ego based errors which have lead to the bottoming out of the program.


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    Re: Klenakis impact

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    I'm not crapping on the players. I can be a fan of the team but not a fan of the coach.
    And so who exactly do you think should be coaching the Iowa State Cyclones?



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