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    Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    I was at a graduation party over the weekend. I was talking to one of the kids at the party that is in his sophomore year of ME at ISU. He is thinking about switching to MIS. I tried to give him some information. I was MIS and had ME roommates but that was 20 years ago. I figured I would post out here to get him some more info.

    For you ME's out there, does the course work get easier after the first 2 years of pre-reqs and weedout classes? Any other general thougths on ME?


    For MIS, I had heard there was not as much programming anymore. Is that true? When I was in school, I had C++, COBOL, a database class, and an analysis class. What does the coursework look like now?


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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary_ISU View Post
    I was at a graduation party over the weekend. I was talking to one of the kids at the party that is in his sophomore year of ME at ISU. He is thinking about switching to MIS. I tried to give him some information. I was MIS and had ME roommates but that was 20 years ago. I figured I would post out here to get him some more info.

    For you ME's out there, does the course work get easier after the first 2 years of pre-reqs and weedout classes? Any other general thougths on ME?


    For MIS, I had heard there was not as much programming anymore. Is that true? When I was in school, I had C++, COBOL, a database class, and an analysis class. What does the coursework look like now?


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    I have 2 ME roommates and I am MIS. All gonna be seniors.

    They said this upcoming year will be the easiest year they've had. They also said the first 2 were definitely the "hardest" because they had no idea what they were doing.

    For me, I have no idea but I am taking 100% MIS classes next semester which is apparently becoming common because MIS is getting bigger as a degree each year and it pretty much requires Senior Status to get the classes you want.

    Programming wise you only are required to take 2 Java classes and you have a few MIS electives and some people like to fills those up with programming.

    Hope this helps.




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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary_ISU View Post
    For you ME's out there, does the course work get easier after the first 2 years of pre-reqs and weedout classes? Any other general thoughts on ME?
    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclones2015 View Post

    They said this upcoming year will be the easiest year they've had. They also said the first 2 were definitely the "hardest" because they had no idea what they were doing.
    In theory, this. For me, my 2nd, 4th and 5th semesters were my hardest. I have taken a couple semesters off for internships/co-ops, so my class schedule has been a bit wonky. Ended up that my schedule got a bit backloaded with the harder ME courses, so this coming school year, my 5th (and final), will have pretty loaded 17 and 14 credit semesters.



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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclones2015 View Post

    Programming wise you only are required to take 2 Java classes and you have a few MIS electives and some people like to fills those up with programming.

    Hope this helps.
    The java is nice but you better know .NET too. Don't they still do a c# class? That was required ~10 years ago for me and it's the most applicable thing you need in the job market right now.


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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    I guess I would look at jobs in considering the two, not necessarily the ease of classes. My brother-in-law was MIS, got laid off after working at the same place for years, and has struggled ever since because he kind of got pigeon-holed on what he was doing and with changing technology. Have a nephew who is ME and seems to have no problem finding jobs. He has taken the step of trying to get his employer to move him into different areas just so all of his experience isn't in one little area, so that may be the true difference.



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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    The java is nice but you better know .NET too. Don't they still do a c# class? That was required ~10 years ago for me and it's the most applicable thing you need in the job market right now.
    I disagree but it's always good to diversify.



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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by 1100011CS View Post
    I disagree but it's always good to diversify.
    Let me clarify. In central Iowa, .NET/C# is by far the most important language to know.


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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    The java is nice but you better know .NET too. Don't they still do a c# class? That was required ~10 years ago for me and it's the most applicable thing you need in the job market right now.
    If you know Java C# is a piece of cake. I have 1 year left in Software Engineering, I don't think there's a C# class.



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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by 1100011CS View Post
    I disagree but it's always good to diversify.
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    Let me clarify. In central Iowa, .NET/C# is by far the most important language to know.
    There are far more java developer positions in the area than .Net, but companies have a much harder time filling the .Net positions, so I'd agree with the_architect

    (plus c# is a lot easier to code in)



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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by TitanClone View Post
    If you know Java C# is a piece of cake. I have 1 year left in Software Engineering, I don't think there's a C# class.
    Yeah Microsoft pretty much ripped off Java to create c#


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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    been about 5 years but MIS was pretty open when I took it. You do a variety of classes(coding, database, tech, software development) and then your last year you could pick whatever you want to get deeper into.

    If you really didn't want to do coding I think you'd only end up with 2 introductory type java classes.


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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    Let me clarify. In central Iowa, .NET/C# is by far the most important language to know.
    I don't want to take this too far off topic but that is a bold (pun intended) statement and I don't agree regardless of location. I guarantee if you know C/C++ and most likely Java you will be placed ahead of someone that only knows C# (.NET isn't a language) when going through applicants. If you're not, I wouldn't want to work there anyway.



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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by 1100011CS View Post
    I don't want to take this too far off topic but that is a bold (pun intended) statement and I don't agree regardless of location. I guarantee if you know C/C++ and most likely Java you will be placed ahead of someone that only knows C# (.NET isn't a language) when going through applicants. If you're not, I wouldn't want to work there anyway.
    I understand your point and I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but I've seen the numbers for central Iowa.

    .Net developers are by far and away the most in demand, with java a distant second. c# being the most common flavor of .Net


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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    I understand your point and I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but I've seen the numbers for central Iowa.

    .Net developers are by far and away the most in demand, with java a distant second. c# being the most common flavor of .Net
    One more statement and I'll drop it: most demand != most important



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    Re: Mechanical Engineering and MIS Questions

    Not trying to be an jerk (or derail the thread), but if someone is trying to choose a major based on course workload, they are probably being short-sighted.

    Ability to get a good job that one can enjoy should really be the deciding factor.

    He's probably already taking that into consideration, but I've made enough short-sighted decisions in my own life not to just assume...


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