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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Sustained losing erases that # of fans. People don't go to watch losing teams.

    Sustained tailgating >>>>> Sustained winning. We have had 1 winning season in about 8 years yet, Attendance goes up.

    We are basically one of the top 10 worst BCS football programs of all time, yet we draw in tons of fans. I do not buy the need to win theory.



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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    Someone said 1/3 empty which would be 20k. Thought it was you. I just don't see how we have #s worse than say bad stretches in the 90s. Could get close to it, but can't understand how it could be worse with more students, alumni and better facilities.
    That makes sense. I wondered where that came from.
    I don't think it would have to be worse. Those years were bad enough.

    I think that makes this season very crucial. Just look at the lack of response we have to football threads here right now. The only thing generating consistent posts/excitement is this endzone project. Otherwise, football threads just quietly sit there until they fade away.

    No matter what, the stadium will be sold out to open up the new endzone. If we're losing, though, it won't last long. Still, we have to build it. The $ is here, people want it, and we can't be left behind. It's an awfully good facility they're putting together.


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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    Quote Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey View Post
    Also, why did those idiots sink all that money into a basketball practice facility only to continue to suck? They should've spent it on finding a coach that isn't a psychotic *******. Funny how lil ol' ISU has the much smaller budget, yet the much better athletic department overall and this **** face is concerning himself over how our money is spent.

    It's also a "low bid" piece of crap that starting needing repairs the day it opened. LOL



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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Sustained losing erases that # of fans. People don't go to watch losing teams.
    The Chicago Cubs disagree.

    Pick apart the comparison all you want, by my point is that people attend sporting events for a variety of reasons, and often times they're unrelated to whether the team stinks.



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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    Quote Originally Posted by ajk4st8 View Post
    Sustained tailgating >>>>> Sustained winning. We have had 1 winning season in about 8 years yet, Attendance goes up.

    We are basically one of the top 10 worst BCS football programs of all time, yet we draw in tons of fans. I do not buy the need to win theory.
    I think we're still riding the coat tails of the Paul Rhoads hype train a little bit. I think you can only sell people on the future for so long though.



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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    hawkfan, you simply don't understand the Cyclone fan base. Much different than yours.



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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    Finite seating capacity has never been the ďbe all, end allĒ for the SEZ. We have had post after post debating the demand, supply, need aspect of the seating and I actually donít see it as relevant for the minor gain and itís just not the driving force behind this. This is about the image, presentation, game day experience and gateway to the university matching what a Big 12 school needs to have for the program and the university as a whole.



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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    Quote Originally Posted by roundball View Post
    The Chicago Cubs disagree.

    Pick apart the comparison all you want, by my point is that people attend sporting events for a variety of reasons, and often times they're unrelated to whether the team stinks.
    I'm a Cubs fan, and at least these numbers disagree:
    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/cubsatte.shtml

    Our attendance tends to be near or below the league average unless we're winning, and then we explode.

    3True is right that we're still riding the hype train a little bit. Never underestimate the relationship between winning and attendance.
    As for the tailgating argument that's out there, people will do that without buying tickets. They aren't necessarily related.


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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    Have you looked at attendance at wrigley it's hilarious. They're selling tickets for like 3 dollars online.



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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    Dude, if you build it, they will come... The value it adds with the new score board, and helping to keep the noise in the stadium is worth it even if one more seat isnt sold.

    Great decision.



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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    End thread


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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    Have you looked at attendance at wrigley it's hilarious. They're selling tickets for like 3 dollars online.
    What a ripoff.



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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    If the program ever erodes to resemble the early 90's then ISU fans should tear down JTS in a Busch Light fueled rage



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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cy Hard View Post
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    No one said it doesn't look nice. But if it's a 60 million dollar renovation and it ends up empty in the 2nd half of every season it might make ya wonder if it was money well spent, or if it was just Pollard capitalizing on the hype train while he could. I'm sure pictures will emerge of the brand new addition sitting empty if the Clones only have 1 or 2 wins towards the end of the season.

    "Whoa nice addition... why's it empty?"



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    Re: Convince me the SEZ is a Good Investment (Long & Numbery)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    Have you looked at attendance at wrigley it's hilarious. They're selling tickets for like 3 dollars online.
    Are these being sold by the Cubs Ticket Office? Or a reseller? How much money did the Cubs already make on selling this ticket? What would it cost to get that seat in a season ticket? Do you really think the Cubs will have trouble selling tickets next year? For Cubs fans, there is always "Next Year!"



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