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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    The Browns are the Browns are the Browns. They'd find a way to turn Peyton Manning into a 4-12 quarterback.
    I'm on the Cleveland Hype Train for sure this year. Normally I am more reserved but we have one of the easier schedules, an elite receiver, top 5 defense, and if our O-Line stays healthy it can protect a quarterback. We saw flashes of this last season when we won 3 in a row at the beginning of the year.

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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclones2015 View Post
    I'm on the Cleveland Hype Train for sure this year. Normally I am more reserved but we have one of the easier schedules, an elite receiver, top 5 defense, and if our O-Line stays healthy it can protect a quarterback. We saw flashes of this last season when we won 3 in a row at the beginning of the year.

    Browns are making the Playoffs. Book it danno
    They've got some work to do after a slow start. According to your signature they are already 0-2.


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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

    Quote Originally Posted by intrepid27 View Post
    Ok. The draft is days away. You are very talented but there are questions about your off field social life.
    I'm sure posting pictures of yourself hanging with someone who is constantly in trouble will boost your draft stock. Kid is an idiot.

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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

    Quote Originally Posted by intrepid27 View Post
    I know that picture alone is not a huge deal but why reinforce a negative reputation at this point.
    How is taking a freaking picture with one of the best NFL WRs reinforcing a negative reputation?



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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    The Browns are the Browns are the Browns. They'd find a way to turn Peyton Manning into a 4-12 quarterback.
    Is that the first time that someone ever said something from Cleveland was "glorious?"

    I guess it could count that people say "What a glorious day I am leaving Cleveland."



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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

    Lol, huge over reaction. If one of our players, checkered past or not, took a picture with Dez Bryant, we would have 5 threads touting his awesomeness.



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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

    hell be just fine, I am positive that nothing he does will hurt his draft stock. I dont personally care either way, but from the history of draft if he can play, he will get drafted. If hes perceived as having a strong chance of being special he will be drafted high.



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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

    Manziel will never be a successful QB in the NFL. His numbers in college were insane but, like everyone else has said, it was pure playground plays.

    I feel every defense is going to want to pound him in the ground, too, for being such a punk. I wouldn't be shocked to see a few roughing the passer penalties every game.


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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

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    Manziel will never be a successful QB in the NFL. His numbers in college were insane but, like everyone else has said, it was pure playground plays.

    I feel every defense is going to want to pound him in the ground, too, for being such a punk. I wouldn't be shocked to see a few roughing the passer penalties every game.
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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

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    oookay, grandpa
    Guilty as charged.

    Yes I do form opinions about people partially based on company they keep. I'm guessing most people do the same to some degree.

    Yes Dez is a great receiver but he is also a total head case.



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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclones2015 View Post
    I'm on the Cleveland Hype Train for sure this year. Normally I am more reserved but we have one of the easier schedules, an elite receiver, top 5 defense, and if our O-Line stays healthy it can protect a quarterback. We saw flashes of this last season when we won 3 in a row at the beginning of the year.

    Browns are making the Playoffs. Book it danno
    Slow down, son. They have a good defense, but statistically they weren't top 5 in any major Defensive category last year. Scoring, yardage, turnovers, pass defense, run defense, etc, etc, etc. Not top 5.


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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCubswin View Post
    Manziel will never be a successful QB in the NFL. His numbers in college were insane but, like everyone else has said, it was pure playground plays.

    I feel every defense is going to want to pound him in the ground, too, for being such a punk. I wouldn't be shocked to see a few roughing the passer penalties every game.
    Yeah, nearly every highlight they show of him are playground plays where everything breaks down and he scrambles away from it and just chucks it up and Evans comes down with it somehow. Or after breaking out of a few tackle attempts, he finds someone that has broken open downfield and hits them. But I have a feeling he won't be breaking as many tackles at the next level. And he won't be getting up from hits like he did in college either.

    Manziel is a very talented kid and he really can throw it pretty accurately, I just don't think his gunslinger attitude is going to work so well for him in the NFL. He will certainly be fun to watch, but he might not win many games.



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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    Slow down, son. They have a good defense, but statistically they weren't top 5 in any major Defensive category last year. Scoring, yardage, turnovers, pass defense, run defense, etc, etc, etc. Not top 5.
    Hey be nice... A lot of great teams lose 10 of their last 11 games...



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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

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    Yeah, nearly every highlight they show of him are playground plays where everything breaks down and he scrambles away from it and just chucks it up and Evans comes down with it somehow. Or after breaking out of a few tackle attempts, he finds someone that has broken open downfield and hits them. But I have a feeling he won't be breaking as many tackles at the next level. And he won't be getting up from hits like he did in college either.

    Manziel is a very talented kid and he really can throw it pretty accurately, I just don't think his gunslinger attitude is going to work so well for him in the NFL. He will certainly be fun to watch, but he might not win many games.
    Sometimes, I think these "playground plays" translate better to the NFL than some of us realize. Count me in as someone who is excited to watch him play and thinks he could end up being a stud.



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    Re: Manziel is slow learner

    Quote Originally Posted by intrepid27 View Post
    Guilty as charged.

    Yes I do form opinions about people partially based on company they keep. I'm guessing most people do the same to some degree.

    Yes Dez is a great receiver but he is also a total head case.
    What has Dez done off the field that makes him such a bad person for Manziel to take a picture with? He had one incident with his mom and owed some money for jewelry. Or is your issue that Dez was suspended for a year because he worked out with Deion Sanders and Deion bought him lunch? There is much worse people to be hanging around that Dez in my opinion.



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