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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    Have seen so much crappy football for 30 yrs.



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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    More than anything, this thread is bringing me to a realization that Rhoads is not a guy that will get us over the hump.
    And this isn't a slam. Very few coaches could do it. There's a hundred Macarneys and Ron Princes for every one Silver Fox.



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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    Rhoads may never get us over the hump, but he is still the right coach for Iowa State.



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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    I was hoping for a different TV or conference setup. Ala carte or a progressive tax on TV revenue. Greed has killed the sport for us. Now there will be unions and paid players. They might as well call it the NFL development league.



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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsTournament View Post
    Rhoads may never get us over the hump, but he is still the right coach for Iowa State.
    I agree. I decided awhile ago that I was going to sink or swim with Rhoads. And I'll stick to that.


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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    It is all based on recruiting, good recruits make coaches look good.



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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    Quote Originally Posted by jay moe View Post
    It is all based on recruiting, good recruits make coaches look good.
    Except old Mack Brown kinda struggled with that as of late. I agree with your premise, but there is obviously more to it than that. You have to be able to mold a cohesive team and motivate that talent.


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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rods79 View Post
    Could have mentioned that during those Mac years of 12 teams and two divisions, I believe we were the only team that had to play Oklahoma and Texas in a single season rotation. Maybe Baylor too? Not defending the performance, but a little goes a long way and one more win in a few of those seasons could have helped level out the peaks and valleys.
    Kansas missed OU, Texas and Texas Tech during Mangino's Orange Bowl season, so Kansas had to play them in the same rotation too.



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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    Quote Originally Posted by jay moe View Post
    It is all based on recruiting, good recruits make coaches look good.
    And we can recruit as well as k state, Baylor, Mizzou etc have over the past decade. We aren't that far off in recruiting rankings. Take a look.

    Just keep a good staff together and build something. It'll never happen if we have coaches leaving every single season.

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    Recruiting Rank Baylor Kansas St Mizzou Iowa St
    2008 51 27 25 62
    2009 55 93 40 74
    2010 39 63 21 60
    2011 46 69 48 51
    2012 45 59 31 88
    2013 31 66 41 58
    2014 34 47 35 56
    Ave. Recruiting Rank 43 61 34 64
    Ave. Wins Per Season *'09-'13 8.0 8.4 8.6 5.4

    In my amateur opinion, even 20 spots in the rankings is relatively insignificant. Especially when comparing middle of the pack teams and not the top 25.


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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    Whatever you post, imagine it in a resurrection thread in 6 months. I'm going with 6-7 wins, including 3-4 in conference. This is the year we get over the hump. Good o-line and QB making quick passes to slanting receivers will open up everything else. Worked for Baylor.



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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    We seem to do a lot more perishing than we do adapting



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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    And we can recruit as well as k state, Baylor, Mizzou etc have over the past decade. We aren't that far off in recruiting rankings. Take a look.

    Just keep a good staff together and build something. It'll never happen if we have coaches leaving every single season.

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    2008 51 27 25 62
    2009 55 93 40 74
    2010 39 63 21 60
    2011 46 69 48 51
    2012 45 59 31 88
    2013 31 66 41 58
    2014 34 47 35 56
    Ave. Recruiting Rank 43 61 34 64
    Ave. Wins Per Season *'09-'13 8.0 8.4 8.6 5.4

    In my amateur opinion, even 20 spots in the rankings is relatively insignificant. Especially when comparing middle of the pack teams and not the top 25.
    Would you rather Klenakis and Mess were still on the staff?



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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    And we can recruit as well as k state, Baylor, Mizzou etc have over the past decade. We aren't that far off in recruiting rankings. Take a look.

    Just keep a good staff together and build something. It'll never happen if we have coaches leaving every single season.

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    Recruiting Rank Baylor Kansas St Mizzou Iowa St
    2008 51 27 25 62
    2009 55 93 40 74
    2010 39 63 21 60
    2011 46 69 48 51
    2012 45 59 31 88
    2013 31 66 41 58
    2014 34 47 35 56
    Ave. Recruiting Rank 43 61 34 64
    Ave. Wins Per Season *'09-'13 8.0 8.4 8.6 5.4

    In my amateur opinion, even 20 spots in the rankings is relatively insignificant. Especially when comparing middle of the pack teams and not the top 25.
    Are juco recruits included in those rankings?



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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    Quote Originally Posted by ripvdub View Post
    System, system, system, talent/recruiting.
    Bears, Beets, Battlestar Gallactica



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    Re: Monday Musings: "Adapt or perish"

    Our football program sucks because our Head Coach sucks. The sooner everybody realizes that the better off we will be. Best thing I did last year was not renew season tickets, and I wont this year either. Cant wait for basketball!


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