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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    But these schools won't be able to get pay days anymore, wont be able to schedule, won't be included in the NCAA basketball tournament. It will have a MUCH larger negative effect than you would think. College basketball as we know it will be a cluster. Wrestling will be extinct.
    They aren't leaving the NCAA. None of those things would be going away



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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    This will be terrible for educational opportunities for hundreds of thousands of students. The other 200 some schools will be forced to cut sports and scholarships to people who would actually GREATLY appreciate the chance at a free education.
    Does this make it good or bad for Iowa State...because I'm an alum and a Cyclones fan so if it's good for ISU and puts UNI out of business I don't give a ****. I really don't.


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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    I really don't like or agree with Pollard on this issue. Your really crying about possibly having to spend another 750k per year on your student athletes. Your Big XII TV contract alone is going up by at least, what $10 million per year, in the next few years. Cry me a river. I know he wants as big a budget as he can possibly get but your department wouldn't exist without the athletes. This is fairly simple and shouldn't cost anyone an education. You will have a few sports that get the larger "full" cost of attendance. Everyone on the each team must get the same amount (otherwise they are more like free agents and costs will spiral upwards). Most likely the revenue generating sports will get this higher tier while sports like swimming and diving can stay the same. Let each school choose which sports to compete at the highest levels (ie Stanford or Texas can do this for every sport under the sun if they choose) but the money will be equal at the schools at this highest level. The other sports will be lower "value" scholarships. This is somewhat like what already occurs with Wrestling where they mostly get partial scholarships due to the 9.9 limit.



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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    They aren't leaving the NCAA. None of those things would be going away
    Lol at the NCAA giving up it's multi billion dollar cash cow by not letting the best schools into the NCAA tourney.



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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    But these schools won't be able to get pay days anymore, wont be able to schedule, won't be included in the NCAA basketball tournament. It will have a MUCH larger negative effect than you would think. College basketball as we know it will be a cluster. Wrestling will be extinct.
    This, in particular, is wrong.

    And why should I care about Indiana State again...?


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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    Wait...wah? According to some out here, I thought the Register didn't provide any content worth reading....that everything ISU related could be found elsewhere?

    "Why is anyone still reading the newspaper?!?!" 2nd most annoying comment out here after only, "why do you waste your time listening to local sports talk radio?"

    /end snarky comment.


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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    They aren't leaving the NCAA. None of those things would be going away
    It's just the first step in pulling completely away from the NCAA, so think what you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by weR138 View Post
    Does this make it good or bad for Iowa State...because I'm an alum and a Cyclones fan so if it's good for ISU and puts UNI out of business I don't give a ****. I really don't.
    Would it be good for the budget? Yes. Good for competitive opportnities, non conference scheduling, etc. Not a chance

    Quote Originally Posted by weR138 View Post
    This, in particular, is wrong.

    And why should I care about Indiana State again...?
    How many of the schools participating in Wrestling are from teh Big 5? You really going to sponsor a sport with a dozen teams?



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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    Quote Originally Posted by capitalcityguy View Post
    Wait...wah? According to some out here, I thought the Register didn't provide any content worth reading....that everything ISU related could be found elsewhere?

    "Why is anyone still reading the newspaper?!?!" 2nd most annoying comment out hear after only, "why do you waste your time listening to local sports talk radio?"

    /end snarky comment.
    Well, what JP said has been assumed for awhile. CW should do a follow up with JP to make certain the DMR did not distort anything.


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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    I think the net effect here could be more parity among teams in the Big 5, with a larger gap between Big 5 teams and the mid-majors. For teams at the top of the heap like KU hoops or UT and Alabama football, they already bring in classes full of 5 star recruits, they can't really improve. Where the difference is going to occur is for a football player with offers from the Mountain West or CUSA up against offers from schools like ISU, KU, Indiana, etc. Those lower tier Big 5 schools are going to start winning more of those battles than they do today as there will be a major financial incentive in going to the larger school. The bottom rises, the top has nowhere more to go up, and you have added parity in the league.



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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    This legislation is a mistake, and could be the move that ultimately kills college sports.

    I play a club sport at ISU. I've already had to have surgery on my knee from a meniscus tear, that I had to pay for out of pocket. Just because America doesn't deem my sport worthy of TV time, doesn't make me any less an athlete than a bench warmer for the football team. You start pumping even more money into football, you will take away from the rest of college athletics.



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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Skidoosh View Post
    This legislation is a mistake, and could be the move that ultimately kills college sports.

    I play a club sport at ISU. I've already had to have surgery on my knee from a meniscus tear, that I had to pay for out of pocket. Just because America doesn't deem my sport worthy of TV time, doesn't make me any less an athlete than a bench warmer for the football team. You start pumping even more money into football, you will take away from the rest of college athletics.
    Put your games on TV and if enough people watch, then you won't have to pay for it out of pocket. This isn't communism.


    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    But we will now be the joke of college athletics. We can't even be entrusted to keep opposing teams safe and secure when they come to Ames anymore. What a joke. As an ISU alum, I'm completely embarrassed and ashamed.

    Football is just a stupid game. Who cares who has the better football team. It's just a game.

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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Skidoosh View Post
    This legislation is a mistake, and could be the move that ultimately kills college sports.

    I play a club sport at ISU. I've already had to have surgery on my knee from a meniscus tear, that I had to pay for out of pocket. Just because America doesn't deem my sport worthy of TV time, doesn't make me any less an athlete than a bench warmer for the football team. You start pumping even more money into football, you will take away from the rest of college athletics.
    Hate to say it but football and men's basketball basically are college sports at this point. Conferences have been torn apart and reassembled because of football. Olympic sports don't drive the engine. They'll take what they can get if they are even allowed to survive



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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Skidoosh View Post
    This legislation is a mistake, and could be the move that ultimately kills college sports.

    I play a club sport at ISU. I've already had to have surgery on my knee from a meniscus tear, that I had to pay for out of pocket. Just because America doesn't deem my sport worthy of TV time, doesn't make me any less an athlete than a bench warmer for the football team. You start pumping even more money into football, you will take away from the rest of college athletics.
    Sorry but that's capitalism. And not to sound cynical but you chose to play a club sport.
    I'm sure a meniscus tear is expensive (and you probably had to pay a copay-don't you have insurance?) but that's part of choosing to do that.



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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Put your games on TV and if enough people watch, then you won't have to pay for it out of pocket. This isn't communism.
    Exactly. I truly don't understand people who think that football and basketball have some responsibility to send all their money to little sports nobody cares about. If it matters that much to you, donate to those sports yourself.



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    Re: JP in the DMR talking about reorganizing the big 5

    Quote Originally Posted by Skidoosh View Post
    This legislation is a mistake, and could be the move that ultimately kills college sports.

    I play a club sport at ISU. I've already had to have surgery on my knee from a meniscus tear, that I had to pay for out of pocket. Just because America doesn't deem my sport worthy of TV time, doesn't make me any less an athlete than a bench warmer for the football team. You start pumping even more money into football, you will take away from the rest of college athletics.
    Wow....is someone forcing you to play a sport that no one wants to pay to watch you play? If you have an issue with that, I'd suggest giving it up.


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