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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Thomasrickj View Post
    Yeah but they can't recruit high school kids according to so many Debbie Downer's.
    They have struggled to get their high school targets. However as we have seen it doesn't really matter.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by DandyCyclone View Post
    Cooke says he is in no hurry but didn't BDJ say he was in no hurry and he committed before he even left Ames?

    The way Hoiberg and Abdelmassih can instantly woo transfer players is amazing. If the staff believes a transfer can impact the program I believe they'll commit before they leave town 9 times out of 10.

    I think the "no hurrry" thing is just something you say to sound like you're keeping all options open and thinking things through, even though Cooke sounds like he's thought things through already.


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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Thomasrickj View Post
    Seriously, shut up and go cheer for another team. Niang, Thomas and Morris were all four star recruits. With the exception of maybe Diallo, we actually have shown the ability to recruit at that level. Shoot, even Custer is a four star recruit!
    He has a point. Niang, Thomas, morris and even custer for this argument may have been four stars, but they had no where near the level of offers that guys like Diallo, ellenson, rashad vaughn and other big time guys we've missed out on.

    Niang: isu, bama, charlotte, delaware, fau, george mason, hofstra, iowa, umass, miami, northeastern, providence, sienna, texas a&m

    Thomas:isu, boston college, colorado state, creighton, wisc-greenbay, marquette, minn, nebraska, uni, northwestern, virginia, wisconsin

    morris: isu, Arizona state, cincinnati, georgia tech, princeton, providence, rhode island, usc, western michigan

    custer: isu, houston, kstate, oklahoma, okie state, san francisco, south carolina, tulsa

    red were tournament teams this year and yes Iowa counts...

    We hardly beat out the kansas' and duke's of the world to get these four guys. Of course there are exceptions to these guys, i.e. Woodbury to UNC. The best offers were matt thomas' to wisconsin and virginia. Morris didn't even have an offer from michigan or michigan state (yes, I remember michigan pulled their offer once walton committed).

    They are awesome players and are very good, but guys like Vaughn and Diallo are on different levels. It's a little bit different if you beat out Duke, Kansas or Kentucky rather than the high majority that we did for these guys. Fortunately, we recruit transfers like nobody's business, so this high school recruiting garbage doesn't even matter. Lolololol Free agency snitches!!!!!


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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    I think the "no hurrry" thing is just something you say to sound like you're keeping all options open and thinking things through, even though Cooke sounds like he's thought things through already.
    I agree. Kids want to keep their options open in case they don't like their visit, or teammates, etc. I don't read too much into these type of comments. Many kids, transfers or otherwise, say they are going to take all their visits, and then 2 days later commit.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfinger View Post
    Diallo is a top ten recruit, who can go anywhere. Ellenson is also a top level big man, with a recent Duke offer among others. Ahmad and dad seem infatuated with big ten schools, plans visits to Michigan and MSU without an offer, and is waiting for OSu to offer. I love Niang, Morris, Thomas, Custer, they look to be great gets, but none were as highly recruited as Diallo, Ellenson, and we'll see if Ahmad moves up in rankings with this AAU season.
    And none are local. Are you surprised a kid in Ohio will be tough to get over Big 10 schools or is waiting for an OSU offer? These guys are low odds for any school, let alone one from Iowa with less success than the local schools and without the glamour of the non-local bluebloods.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by ripvdub View Post
    That story from CW just makes this all seem a lil fishy. I know there are backdoor deals done all the time, you just never hear about them.
    What?



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Nation View Post
    If we are seriously in on Ellenson, Noskowiak and Diallo....count me as one to pass on Cooke. He's going to take one of their scholarships. And everyone seems to be ALL IN on the 2015-16 team, I have to assume you'd rather have those three also right?
    So you're telling me you are going to pass on a kid who has proven himself as a freshman at the collegiate level (8 ppg/46% 3P%), has NBA potential and people talking with 3 years eligibility over unproven Seniors in HS? We aren't even leading, that we know of, on any of these kids. Don't get me wrong, Fred needs to land a high impact Mcd AA sometime, but he's proving the transfer route is working very effectively versus spending 1-4 years on kids who, lets be honest, aren't always making the best decisions in life at that age. There was a lot of time spent on Vaughn and look how that turned out. How much time/money was allocated towards BDJ?

    Fred and company got on Cooke early for a reason. You passing means you don't trust Fred. Blasphemy.


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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Let's keep it civil fellas.


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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    And none are local. Are you surprised a kid in Ohio will be tough to get over Big 10 schools or is waiting for an OSU offer? These guys are low odds for any school, let alone one from Iowa with less success than the local schools and without the glamour of the non-local bluebloods.
    I agree 100% with you, that is the struggle we still face.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfinger View Post
    I agree 100% with you, that is the struggle we still face.
    Good thing the goal is not winning at high school recruiting. Until it is, I think the staff is doing near an optimal job. Priority number 1 imo is getting the elite transfers. They likely will have bigger impacts than OAD guys. If we finish out with Cooke and Anderson, this offseason will have been a step towards that. Even if we could get 5-stars, I would still want to get the same amount of transfers as we do now.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    What?
    I just thinks it's odd that he was sitting in the isu section at our sweet 16 game. We were the first to contact, visit. I don't care, I just don't want to read things that may lead the NCAA to our door. I'm prob reading too much into this.


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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    Good thing the goal is not winning at high school recruiting. Until it is, I think the staff is doing near an optimal job. Priority number 1 imo is getting the elite transfers. They likely will have bigger impacts than OAD guys. If we finish out with Cooke and Anderson, this offseason will have been a step towards that. Even if we could get 5-stars, I would still want to get the same amount of transfers as we do now.
    transfers and juco guys. Houge was an impact recruit this year and I expect McKay and Williams to be the same.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by ripvdub View Post
    I just thinks it's odd that he was sitting in the isu section at our sweet 16 game. We were the first to contact, visit. I don't care, I just don't want to read things that may lead the NCAA to our door. I'm prob reading too much into this.
    Not odd when you consider he was Hogue's AAU teammate and that Hogue had a huge following at the game. Imo it makes sense that Hogue would be hooking up former teammates with tickets not used by others. That is pretty conventional.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by ripvdub View Post
    I just thinks it's odd that he was sitting in the isu section at our sweet 16 game. We were the first to contact, visit. I don't care, I just don't want to read things that may lead the NCAA to our door. I'm prob reading too much into this.
    There were multiple "ISU sections" at that game. ISU fans were spread out all over the place. The kid is from the area, had tickets to the Sweet 16 in MSG and ISU happened to play there. Heck, he could have sat near like 10 fans from ISU and called it the "section." You are reading to much into it.



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