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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Nation View Post
    If we are seriously in on Ellenson, Noskowiak and Diallo....count me as one to pass on Cooke. He's going to take one of their scholarships. And everyone seems to be ALL IN on the 2015-16 team, I have to assume you'd rather have those three also right?
    You realize that Cooke and Diallo/Ellenson play totally different positions right?

    Cooke is our #1 guard target and if we miss on him then we can worry about Nick N



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Nation View Post
    If we are seriously in on Ellenson, Noskowiak and Diallo....count me as one to pass on Cooke. He's going to take one of their scholarships. And everyone seems to be ALL IN on the 2015-16 team, I have to assume you'd rather have those three also right?
    1 in hand > 2 in bush

    We aren't getting all three of those guys anyway. If we get Cook we probably stop recruiting Nick. At least I would guess that but Fred is Fred.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Details on ISU's recruitment of Cooke.

    http://cyclonefanatic.com/basketball...th-iowa-state/



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    1 in hand > 2 in bush

    We aren't getting all three of those guys anyway. If we get Cook we probably stop recruiting Nick. At least I would guess that but Fred is Fred.
    I agree it's better to have something than nothing (see: RV). Just expressing a passing thought....



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Nation View Post
    I agree it's better to have something than nothing (see: RV). Just expressing a passing thought....
    With Cooke, you have more than just "something" because he hit 45% from 3 as a FR. He's on the radar of the NBA. He's proven against the type of talent he'll face consistently in the B12. None of the other 3 you mentioned are proven at the collegiate level.

    That isn't to say that NN won't be a very good ball player, but evaluating transfers is much easier than guessing on HS kids based on their body of work.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    46% from 3 his freshman year…niiiiiiice



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Had a dream last night that we didn't get him. However generally the things I dream don't become the reality so we're good.


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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    With Cooke, you have more than just "something" because he hit 45% from 3 as a FR. He's on the radar of the NBA. He's proven against the type of talent he'll face consistently in the B12. None of the other 3 you mentioned are proven at the collegiate level.

    That isn't to say that NN won't be a very good ball player, but evaluating transfers is much easier than guessing on HS kids based on their body of work.
    Exactly. It is not as though Cooke is a fall back recruit. The staff has made comments about keeping a scholarship open as a potential plan and have cooled somewhat on 4-star high school guys. Given that selectivity, if we are going after Cooke we must feel he is very good. 2015-16 is going to be a huge year for us and Cooke as a redshirt Soph that has been in the program a year is going to a bigger asset than all but the very elite preps.

    Plus, we still have two scholarships. It would be surprising to get one, let alone three.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Nation View Post
    If we are seriously in on Ellenson, Noskowiak and Diallo....count me as one to pass on Cooke. He's going to take one of their scholarships. And everyone seems to be ALL IN on the 2015-16 team, I have to assume you'd rather have those three also right?
    Absolutely not. A guy that's proven at a D1 school that shot 46% from 3 as a freshman. You take that guy over almost any high schooler. Especially if you are not sure the high schooler is ours to get. Have you seen the list of teams after the three guys you mentioned?

    Diallo: Arizona, Kansas, Ohio State
    Ellenson: Baylor, Duke, Michigan St, Wisconsin
    Noskowiak: Marquette, Creighton, and I'm sure his list will grow now that his recruitment opened up.

    We are going against the who's who of college basketball for these three, as apposed to transfers, where we are the king. It's good to be the king.


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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Cooke says he is in no hurry but didn't BDJ say he was in no hurry and he committed before he even left Ames?

    The way Hoiberg and Abdelmassih can instantly woo transfer players is amazing. If the staff believes a transfer can impact the program I believe they'll commit before they leave town 9 times out of 10.


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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Nation View Post
    I agree it's better to have something than nothing (see: RV). Just expressing a passing thought....
    All good. Just trust Fred.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Nation View Post
    If we are seriously in on Ellenson, Noskowiak and Diallo....count me as one to pass on Cooke. He's going to take one of their scholarships. And everyone seems to be ALL IN on the 2015-16 team, I have to assume you'd rather have those three also right?
    I would actually take the exact opposite opinion if the team is truely "ALL IN" on 2015-16 you take two transfers who both have played at a high level in ACC/Pac 10 over the potential of getting HS recruits. Cooke and Anderson will have a red shirt year to learn the system and build chemistry. Fran Franchillia tweeted that he has heard NBA scouts noticing and liking Cooke's potiential at the next level during his freshman year. Most of the recruiting experts were mentioning what a huge loss it was for the OSU program. This isn't the case of just filling a scholarship, it is getting a SG with NBA protential that was under recruited, not to mention he has 3 years of eligibility left.

    As for getting those three recruits mentioned, if they want to come the staff will find room for them. Djean-Jones, Edozie, and Hogue will graduate and it is possible another scholarship opens up for various reasons 2 years from today.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Nation View Post
    If we are seriously in on Ellenson, Noskowiak and Diallo....count me as one to pass on Cooke. He's going to take one of their scholarships. And everyone seems to be ALL IN on the 2015-16 team, I have to assume you'd rather have those three also right?
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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Nation View Post
    If we are seriously in on Ellenson, Noskowiak and Diallo....count me as one to pass on Cooke. He's going to take one of their scholarships. And everyone seems to be ALL IN on the 2015-16 team, I have to assume you'd rather have those three also right?
    I don't think we have much of a chance with Diallo, Ellenson, Esa Ahmad, this staff hasn't shown that type of ability to recruit at that level.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Hallice Cooke visiting this weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfinger View Post
    I don't think we have much of a chance with Diallo, Ellenson, Esa Ahmad, this staff hasn't shown that type of ability to recruit at that level.
    I agree we haven't shown it with HS players and I would certainly sign Anderson and Cooke up today, but sooner or later, Fred is going to start landing a big fish or two.



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