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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    I figured he'd be a decent coach. I mean, the bar was set really low by his predecessor.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    Fred said all the right things at the conference.

    * Made it a point to publicly state he was intent on keeping TJ
    * Let it be known that Grayer would have a place (even though that didn't end up being the case)

    - And having Gary Thompson out front praising the hire - as well as JP noting his direct involvement in the process - certainly added some weight to the decision.

    And it don't think it was all that long that he hired Bobby Lutz - maybe 5-6 weeks? That eased a lot of peoples minds in terms of having the experience on the bench. We were going to keep the recruiting channels in place and have a seasoned, experienced coach to guide the Mayor.

    Little did we know....



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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    Quote Originally Posted by CyArob View Post
    The 2010-2011 team was the most fun to watch .500 basketball team I've ever seen.
    My freshman year at ISU

    *tear*



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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    i think almost all schools and fans are in denial about the kind of coach they can attract. schools like oregon, arizona, maryland, marquette, etc have all hired their 2nd, 4rd, 5th choice, even with $$$$$/tradition/recruiting advantages behind them.

    JP was/is ahead of his time in how to bring in the right coach. what a complete homerun hire. i think in 2010 i was in denial about how bad things were going to get, and today i'm in disbelief how good things are going to become.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    I remember thinking both "Wow!" and "Hmm, I'm not so sure about this..." But within about 24 hours (and probably after watching clip of press conference), I decided, you know, this is just crazy enough to work.

    Plus, there really weren't that many viable coaches available, if I recall. I remember wanting Kruger (if he was even a true candidate). If nothing else, i assumed fans would be patient because we'd want him to succeed.

    As others have suggested, I figured even if Hoiberg got things rolling again, it might take 3 years before we'd see a tournament bid.


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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    I kept three straight days of the newspaper. The day McD left, the next day Fred was hired, and the next day he was introduced. I had a pretty good feeling let's say, but I'm guessing so did everyone that was in school the same years as him.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    I forgot just how fast that whole thing went. When JP retires and writes his memoirs it will be fascinating to hear just how long the Hoiberg hire was in the works. In retrospect it seems pretty obvious that was the plan all along once the time finally came to move on from McD.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    I remember thinking both "Wow!" and "Hmm, I'm not so sure about this..." But within about 24 hours (and probably after watching clip of press conference), I decided, you know, this is just crazy enough to work.

    Plus, there really weren't that many viable coaches available, if I recall. I remember wanting Kruger (if he was even a true candidate). If nothing else, i assumed fans would be patient because we'd want him to succeed.

    As others have suggested, I figured even if Hoiberg got things rolling again, it might take 3 years before we'd see a tournament bid.
    If I remember, BIlly Gillispie was a "hot" name...thank you, thank you, thank you that didn't happen.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    Quote Originally Posted by RubyClone View Post
    Fred said all the right things at the conference.

    * Made it a point to publicly state he was intent on keeping TJ
    * Let it be known that Grayer would have a place (even though that didn't end up being the case)

    - And having Gary Thompson out front praising the hire - as well as JP noting his direct involvement in the process - certainly added some weight to the decision.

    And it don't think it was all that long that he hired Bobby Lutz - maybe 5-6 weeks? That eased a lot of peoples minds in terms of having the experience on the bench. We were going to keep the recruiting channels in place and have a seasoned, experienced coach to guide the Mayor.

    Little did we know....
    I always wonder who JP consults with when making decisions? Meaning, obviously he talks to his bosses, attorneys, and such...but I always wonder how much weight "big donors" play into this stuff? Just a random thought.

    JP is a gambler...and that's why I like him. Honestly, McD was a homerun hire when he was hired...same with Chizz.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    If I remember correctly, Fred really campaigned (privately) for the job when McDermott was hired and JP listened but just thought it wasn't the right time or that he didn't have enough experience. I think even JP talked about this?
    Anyway, I think after the Chizik fiasco and the McDermott bomb, he knew fit was probably as important as anything at ISU and remembered what Fred said previously. How could the Mayor not "fit" at ISU.
    I remember being extremely excited but a little apprehensive because if he failed, his image/history at ISU would be damaged. But I was not going to surprised if he succeeded, he is much too smart and determined.....



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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    I was at high school in northern MN. Had just decided to go to school here a month before graduation for ME. Didn't know anything about the basketball program or Fred Hoiberg. A fellow classmate actually told me then started laughing hysterically. If only he had known.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    I was on the Fred bandwagon the whole time. The guy just plain knows basketball and he knows how to find the talent that fits his system. He is also a great businessman and just plain smart. He was a little short of experience, so he hired a very experienced assistant rather than a young up and comer. He saw that the defense on last year's team is what kept them from the final 4, so when an assistant left he hired Doc Sadler to shore things up. He has also changed the way guys looking to transfer are looked at.

    I figured Fred would get things done eventually, but I never expected it to happen this fast.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    Quote Originally Posted by RubyClone View Post
    Fred said all the right things at the conference.

    * Made it a point to publicly state he was intent on keeping TJ
    * Let it be known that Grayer would have a place (even though that didn't end up being the case)

    - And having Gary Thompson out front praising the hire - as well as JP noting his direct involvement in the process - certainly added some weight to the decision.

    And it don't think it was all that long that he hired Bobby Lutz - maybe 5-6 weeks? That eased a lot of peoples minds in terms of having the experience on the bench. We were going to keep the recruiting channels in place and have a seasoned, experienced coach to guide the Mayor.

    Little did we know....
    This is pure speculation, but I was never convinced that Gary Thompson was 100% on board with the hire at the time.

    In the day or two that we were without a coach, he was the one talking about how 'NCAA coaches' were interested in the job. I assume the one he was talking about was Gillipse, but I don't know. Also, if you watch his interview after the hire, he basically said he had nothing to do with the hire and was kind of downplaying his role. I figured that Pollard specifically mentioned him in the press conference because he hadn't gone with his guy.

    Either way, it doesn't matter and obviously Gary is one of the biggest basketball supporters and we are lucky to have him.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    I was cutting the grass after work and was listening to Miller n Perault. They had on John Walters and he went off on Perault i believe.


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    Re: Monday Musings: Four-year anniversary (share your story)

    Quote Originally Posted by cydsho View Post
    If I remember correctly, Fred really campaigned (privately) for the job when McDermott was hired and JP listened but just thought it wasn't the right time or that he didn't have enough experience. I think even JP talked about this?
    Anyway, I think after the Chizik fiasco and the McDermott bomb, he knew fit was probably as important as anything at ISU and remembered what Fred said previously. How could the Mayor not "fit" at ISU.
    I remember being extremely excited but a little apprehensive because if he failed, his image/history at ISU would be damaged. But I was not going to surprised if he succeeded, he is much too smart and determined.....
    This link was posted a while back, and has all of the details:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ach-in-america



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