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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone87 View Post
    For those interested here are some renderings of the projects currently underway. Overall, the projects will add more retail than is currently there and increase the density in campustown as well as improve the asthetics.

    Site of old campus book store


    Site of First National bank building



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    Site next to Outlaws on Chamberlain


    There's a pretty good boom going on in campustown right now. There's the new dorm tower getting built on Lincoln Way too and a project coming soon by Kum and Go, along with other possible projects.
    Well I was wrong, this looks great!



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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    Manhattan's bar district is cleaner, but that's about the main difference.

    Campustown looks like ****, but the bars are as good of a time as any other college town I've been to. Renovations are needed immediately, but this idea that it's just miles behind other places in terms of a good time confuses me.
    I'd agree. I didn't go to Iowa State but I spent a summer in Ames when I was in college and had just as much fun going to the Welch bars as I've had anywhere else. But Welch does need a makeover.



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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    A lot of you sound like the old bartender I met in Old Town Alexandria VA. "This place used to be cool, man. Just a bunch of artists who spent all day makin' music, and all night drinkin', smokin' dope and *******. The all these PEOPLE with, like, JOBS and **** started to move in and make the place nice. And now the houses are all nice and everybody's got families and goes to bed by 10PM and this place just like SUCKS, man!"


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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Quote Originally Posted by CornFedIABoy View Post
    So we can have riots every nice weekend? There's a reason they haven't turned that block into a pedestrian mall. It's to minimize congregations.
    Riots seem to disregard the road being there when they happen, i dont think the road is preventing anything.

    Riots seem to mostly happen when a party west of campustown gets broken up and everyone gets herded towards the bar area.



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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    I am thankful Kingland is using their money they could have taken anywhere and are choosing to stay and improve the area.

    I do wish Campustown was more like Aggieville. Basically, until about 8pm it is a shopping district with several restaurants for lunch/dinner, at night becomes more traditional bar district.



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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclones2015 View Post
    What would be awesome is if they made Welch Ave a pedestrian street from Lincoln Way to Pizza Pit
    There wouldn't be any cars to flip over, so that's a plus.



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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclones2015 View Post
    What would be awesome is if they made Welch Ave a pedestrian street from Lincoln Way to Pizza Pit
    That won't happen unless they move the fire station



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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclones2015 View Post
    What would be awesome is if they made Welch Ave a pedestrian street from Lincoln Way to Pizza Pit
    I've thought this a long time. Or at least bring it to the clock tower. Make it a pedestrian only street on weekend nights. Have bands play in the street when its nice out. Let people drink outside (but keep it to welch).....the extra revenue could easily pay for more security and needed help.


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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone87 View Post
    For those interested here are some renderings of the projects currently underway. Overall, the projects will add more retail than is currently there and increase the density in campustown as well as improve the asthetics.

    Site of old campus book store


    Site of First National bank building



    Kingland Systems



    Site next to Outlaws on Chamberlain


    There's a pretty good boom going on in campustown right now. There's the new dorm tower getting built on Lincoln Way too and a project coming soon by Kum and Go, along with other possible projects.
    Boooo!!

    Give me empty, cockroach infested T Galaxy building, random mostly empty vending machine rooms, and bars with standing water and floor drains for plumbing any day!



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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Quote Originally Posted by jgoorsky View Post
    That won't happen unless they move the fire station
    Pretty sure that is in the works right now.



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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Quote Originally Posted by jgoorsky View Post
    That won't happen unless they move the fire station
    I think that if the city was serious about improving Campustown, they WOULD move the fire station. But even if they didn't, why couldn't you make that block of Welch a one way access road? If the fire trucks need it to go north, they can, but no vehicles can turn south from LW and it wouldn't be a through street either way. That would allow the city to widen the sidewalks and allow some outside seating. But man, if they did move that fire station, what kind of prime property would that be? If they don't want to move it, why couldn't the city renovate the fire station and put the doors facing South? The fire engines would be rerouted and go around the block. Response time would be altered maybe 5 seconds if that.



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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    How anyone can think this is a bad thing for Campustown is beyond me.
    Yes I'm not quite sure how people could think this is a bad thing. Anyone who believes a developer is going to come into a space like this and not provide plenty of retail space clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. Especially if they think they are not putting in retail space in order to make room for their own office. Guess what? Their own office doesn't bring in money. Retail space does. Now they might be building their own office in the area, but any good developer would not do so at the expense of prime retail space. Meaning they aren't going to put their office right on the street at a busy intersection. They make their money by renting space out. Of course they are going to provide plenty of retail. If they build a new office nearby it's probably for the sake of convenience. They will own all the property in the area so they might as well be located nearby.

    I'm convinced the people who are complaining are the types who just don't like change. Once they see the final product they'll wonder what the heck they were upset about.



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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone87 View Post
    For those interested here are some renderings of the projects currently underway. Overall, the projects will add more retail than is currently there and increase the density in campustown as well as improve the asthetics.

    Site of old campus book store


    Site of First National bank building



    Kingland Systems



    Site next to Outlaws on Chamberlain


    There's a pretty good boom going on in campustown right now. There's the new dorm tower getting built on Lincoln Way too and a project coming soon by Kum and Go, along with other possible projects.
    I was a little disappointed that they weren't going into it with an overall plan that included the city and university, but this is a good second option. Seems to me that most of the building is centered toward housing. When the Towers closed down, Campustown lost a lot of foot traffic and this is a good step back in the right direction. More population in the area equals more investment in retail. Also, the city was smart to require commercial on the ground floor.

    As for Kingland, I have no idea why they didn't save some money and relocate to the Research Park, which is supposed to be tripling in size in the next few years. I wonder how much they would really enjoy having a bar doing FAC while their employees are still working. Same goes for these apartment complexes. IMO they're going to be selective in what kind of businesses they lease to. That kind of limits the kind of retail they would let in there to operate during normal business hours.

    I do think that it's great that there's a lot of development going on Welch. I just hope that the city is smart about it. With the record enrollment, the money is there to bring in all kinds of business and amenities. Does anyone know the timeline for Kum and Go's move across the street and what will happen with the current K&G spot?



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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Foot traffic is nice but with more restaurants and housing where are all the cars going to go?



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    Re: Just drove by campus town

    Quote Originally Posted by JP4CY View Post
    Foot traffic is nice but with more restaurants and housing where are all the cars going to go?
    That parking garage on Chamberlain and walk a block?



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