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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    So, after all of this. Is Michael Wacha an Iowan or a Texan?



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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    Gable took the Hawk citizenship, passed, and is all Hawk. Ken Miller wants an asterisk next to every UI championship indicating Gable is really a Cyclone.

    Miller wants you to admit Gable is really a Cyclone and not really a Hawk.


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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    So….when an American wins a marathon who originally came from the same area of the world that tends to win marathons anyway, is that now inspiration for all young kids in America that they can win it now too? The barrier has been shattered? Probably not….because there really could be an asterisk there because it really has little to do with his country of citizenship and more to do with his country of origin.

    That is what I believe Miller was trying to say, but poorly worded his explanation.


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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    If it was a Viktor Ahn situation, I could understand his point.

    Even as it is, I can understand the point a little bit. Africans generally win the Boston Marathon and it's generally a surprise when they don't so the fact that he's literally an African American should be noted. Where he went wrong was to imply that he was somehow less American than you or I.
    Using that logic, I'd argue no pure-blooded 100% American has ever won the Marathon.



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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    He was 12. A child yes, but he certainly lived their long enough to be influenced by their culture.
    Americans hardly ever win marathons but a disproportionate amount of individuals from certain parts of the world do. Studies have been done that help explain why this occurs and it often has to do with growing up in higher elevations (creates greater lung capacities) as well as body characteristics (e.g…narrow hips) that are advantageous to running long distances.

    I'm pretty sure I just saw something on this on that show Brain Games on Nat Geographic.


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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    Quote Originally Posted by weR138 View Post
    Gable took the Hawk citizenship, passed, and is all Hawk. Ken Miller wants an asterisk next to every UI championship indicating Gable is really a Cyclone.

    Miller wants you to admit Gable is really a Cyclone and not really a Hawk.
    can't he be both? For crying out loud, Iowa fans have claimed half the coaches in college football*


    slight exaggeration


    I'd have no problem if Eritrean newspapers/media had big stories about one of their own winning the marathon and in fact assume that they did do so.



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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheGreat View Post
    Using that logic, I'd argue no pure-blooded 100% American has ever won the Marathon.
    I don't think Bill Rodgers was an immigrant. Don't think his parents were either. Of course, we're all descendents of immigrants it just depends on how far back you want to look.



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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    This is the equivalent of saying that Jason Collins isn't really the first openly gay athlete, because he was with a chick for a long time, so how gay can he really be....



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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan32 View Post
    This is the equivalent of saying that Jason Collins isn't really the first openly gay athlete, because he was with a chick for a long time, so how gay can he really be....
    edited to avoid being sent to the cave


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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    Meb made a thoughtful choice to become an American as opposed to most of us who are born American and had no choice in the matter. Maria Sharapova has lived in Florida since she was 6 but she is still a Russian?



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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    no, no it's not. That's a pretty terrible analogy actually.

    Or am I to assume that you believe being gay is a choice?
    Not getting into that-- the comment was tongue-in-cheek...



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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    Think I would rather read the thread about the merits of North Dakota State as a FBS program than this.

    What a non-issue....off season threads



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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

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    He was 12. A child yes, but he certainly lived their long enough to be influenced by their culture.
    Pretty sure the main "influence" came from his genes, which he would have gotten from his parents whether he was born in Africa or America. The only real benefit to spending 12 years growing up in Africa would be the increased lung capacity because of the altitude (and I'm curious to know how much of an advantage those 12 years were, since he's spent the last couple decades in the US). But his other attributes would be present regardless of his place of birth/childhood.


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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    Also, I read the apology that Rovell issued in 2009. Nearly all of Keflezighi's running experience came in the US, and he developed at every level of the American system (he got here soon enough to start at the first level; he didn't jump in in the middle). He's a completely American-trained athlete who's been living here for nearly three decades and been a naturalized citizen for nearly 20 years. Dude's an American, plain and simple.


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    Re: Meb Keflezighi... Never been so ****** an Ken Miller!

    Quote Originally Posted by tm3308 View Post
    Also, I read the apology that Rovell issued in 2009. Nearly all of Keflezighi's running experience came in the US, and he developed at every level of the American system (he got here soon enough to start at the first level; he didn't jump in in the middle). He's a completely American-trained athlete who's been living here for nearly three decades and been a naturalized citizen for nearly 20 years. Dude's an American, plain and simple.

    No, no...funny name, really dark, wasn't born here...rednecks say not fully 'merican. If he was named Clint and chewed straight Cope, he'd be cool, but sorry.



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