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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    I really hope the task force ends up looking at all options and isn't just a convenient set of names for Leath to blame an unpopular decision on. Having someone like Woody on there gives me hope that is not the case, but who knows.



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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    They should take a look at what Madison/University of Wisconsin did with Freakfest.


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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycsk View Post
    Don't know him. Hope he is only a minority voice.
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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by ImJustKCClone View Post
    I would say the woman who is the vice pres of the "south campus neighborhood assn" might be a tad bit anti-VEISHEA. However, once again, that would be the wrong target for her ire. VEISHEA itself is family friendly. The damage was the result of a drunken mob.
    .....chanting "VEISHEA."


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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by ImJustKCClone View Post
    I would say the woman who is the vice pres of the "south campus neighborhood assn" might be a tad bit anti-VEISHEA. However, once again, that would be the wrong target for her ire. VEISHEA itself is family friendly. The damage was the result of a drunken mob.

    Having talked to people who were there last week, I hear talk from folks who think tipping cars and knocking over light poles is fun. I've even heard some say that the kid who got hit by the pole was partly responsible because he wasn't paying attention. Everyone else knew to move out of the way.

    A neighborhood association person may be able help the committee address the mindset of partiers who seem to need to establish a few guidelines, such as "no car tipping" and "no knocking over light poles."



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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    They could have been chanting Hallelujah but that wouldn't make it a tent revival...



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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    I really hope the task force ends up looking at all options and isn't just a convenient set of names for Leath to blame an unpopular decision on. Having someone like Woody on there gives me hope that is not the case, but who knows.

    My earlier post was trying to make the point that I think there are lots of people on this committee who will approach it from a perspective of valuing VEISHEA as a tradition and therefore won't be arbitrary and rash in making a recommendation that harms the tradition.



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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by ImJustKCClone View Post
    They could have been chanting Hallelujah but that wouldn't make it a tent revival...
    If it happened around a tent revival, it would call those meetings into question.

    I hope they have the guts to pull the plug forever. That VEISHEA name has been connected to this stuff for a couple decades now. That's enough time and enough people involved to prove the culture won't be changing.


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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by ImJustKCClone View Post
    I would say the woman who is the vice pres of the "south campus neighborhood assn" might be a tad bit anti-VEISHEA. However, once again, that would be the wrong target for her ire. VEISHEA itself is family friendly. The damage was the result of a drunken mob.
    It's not like VEISHEA is an irrelevant part of the equation, I don't remember many rioting mobs on non-VEISHEA weeks.



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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycsk View Post
    Having talked to people who were there last week, I hear talk from folks who think tipping cars and knocking over light poles is fun. I've even heard some say that the kid who got hit by the pole was partly responsible because he wasn't paying attention. Everyone else knew to move out of the way.

    A neighborhood association person may be able help the committee address the mindset of partiers who seem to need to establish a few guidelines, such as "no car tipping" and "no knocking over light poles."
    Good point. I understand why she would be a part of it. Just didn't think she would necessarily be on the supportive side. Did the drinking start in the bars that night, or did it start at house parties?



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    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    It's not like VEISHEA is an irrelevant part of the equation, I don't remember many rioting mobs on non-VEISHEA weeks.
    No, although we've had high arrest numbers on football weekends. The thing is, the more we persist with the connection, the more it remains. If we start combating the impression that the "riot" (drunken mob, really, in comparison to the first one) is a "part" of VEISHEA, maybe we will win back some currency. The only way to get the VEISHEA part of VEISHEA back to the forefront is to start condemning the "it's VEISHEA - time to be blottoed for a week" attitude.



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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    I really hope the task force ends up looking at all options and isn't just a convenient set of names for Leath to blame an unpopular decision on. Having someone like Woody on there gives me hope that is not the case, but who knows.
    I think Woody at least will give us a straight answer about what happens in the meetings



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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    If it happened around a tent revival, it would call those meetings into question.

    I hope they have the guts to pull the plug forever. That VEISHEA name has been connected to this stuff for a couple decades now. That's enough time and enough people involved to prove the culture won't be changing.
    Certainly nothing will change if we give up...except the loss of a great tradition that has been corrupted.



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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    If it happened around a tent revival, it would call those meetings into question.

    I hope they have the guts to pull the plug forever. That VEISHEA name has been connected to this stuff for a couple decades now. That's enough time and enough people involved to prove the culture won't be changing.
    If you mean pull the plug on the "VEISHEA" name, then I might agree with you. Re-creating the event and returning it to its original purpose is probably the best way to go. Ditching any sort of spring celebration of Iowa State is an awful idea. It's one of our proudest traditions.



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    Re: Members of Leath's "Veishea Task Force" Announced

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    If it happened around a tent revival, it would call those meetings into question.

    I hope they have the guts to pull the plug forever. That VEISHEA name has been connected to this stuff for a couple decades now. That's enough time and enough people involved to prove the culture won't be changing.
    I hope they don't outright kill it. I could stomach a multi-year hiatus if they thought it was necessary and I was tentatively supportive of cancelling this year to send a message if it lead to something more nuanced going forward. Ending it forever really does seem knee-jerky and cowardly though.



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