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    Re: Irvings major

    Quote Originally Posted by CyDude16 View Post
    they get get the amount foe value that they put into it. You're telling me he can't decide on a major as a junior. Stop making excuses for kids like him. He had every opportunity to get value in his education and didn't. It's not Jamie or Paul's job to force him to take up a major he doesn't care for. It's his adult decision to realize what he is obviously taking for granted. His chances for the nfl were small.
    David Irving is a bum. It's not like needing to do a full time, high stress job like D1 athlete just to get your education would have any bearing on how well you could study and complete a tough major.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyDude16 View Post
    And what will he do after his playing days are over if he was paid? Oh wait he done for and the athletes aren't paid thankfully.
    I agree. Earning hundreds of thousands dollars while in your late teens and early twenties is worthless compared to the honor and privilege of being a student athlete studying pre-liberal arts.


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    But we will now be the joke of college athletics. We can't even be entrusted to keep opposing teams safe and secure when they come to Ames anymore. What a joke. As an ISU alum, I'm completely embarrassed and ashamed.

    Football is just a stupid game. Who cares who has the better football team. It's just a game.

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    Re: Irvings major

    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    David Irving is a bum. It's not like needing to do a full time, high stress job like D1 athlete just to get your education would have any bearing on how well you could study and complete a tough major.



    I agree. Earning hundreds of thousands dollars while in your late teens and early twenties is worthless compared to the honor and privilege of being a student athlete studying pre-liberal arts.

    Are you trying to make sense here? Thousands of students work their way through college successfully every year with full-time or part-time jobs, heavy course loads, none of the support systems athletes have, and they excel at it.

    Where is that "hundreds of thousands dollars" thing coming from? Nobody's ever getting that as a college athlete. Very bizarre dramatization there.


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    Re: Irvings major

    I was a liberal studies major and I have a pretty good job/career. I guess some people need to degrade it to feel better about themselves.



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    Re: Irvings major

    Quote Originally Posted by aeroclone View Post
    Here is my question, if I go try to enroll as a pre-liberal studies major as a non-athlete, do they actually let me do it, or do they laugh me out of the room?
    That was an amazingly arrogant comment. I can only assume you must have a degree in Aerospace Engineering and that you take so much pride in your accomplishment that you feel the need to incorporate your accomplishment into your Cyclonefanatic handle as well as the need to make fun of people who have a "less rigorous" degree.



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    Re: Irvings major

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Are you trying to make sense here? Thousands of students work their way through college successfully every year with full-time or part-time jobs, heavy course loads, none of the support systems athletes have, and they excel at it.

    Where is that "hundreds of thousands dollars" thing coming from? Nobody's ever getting that as a college athlete. Very bizarre dramatization there.
    this.



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    Re: Irvings major

    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    David Irving is a bum. It's not like needing to do a full time, high stress job like D1 athlete just to get your education would have any bearing on how well you could study and complete a tough major.



    I agree. Earning hundreds of thousands dollars while in your late teens and early twenties is worthless compared to the honor and privilege of being a student athlete studying pre-liberal arts.

    Terrible reply. Try harder next time bub



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    Re: Irvings major

    This thread is starting to deteriorate into personal attacks and sweeping generalizations.

    Lets just all agree college football/basketball is pretty corrupt, and nothing is going to change about it anytime soon.



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    Re: Irvings major

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Are you trying to make sense here? Thousands of students work their way through college successfully every year with full-time or part-time jobs, heavy course loads, none of the support systems athletes have, and they excel at it.
    And how many of them already came from a disadvantaged background and may or may not even be literate (don't kid yourself, Iowa State kept Troy Davis eligible) and have to commit 60+ hours a week, at times that they have no control over, and have to take classes that do no conflict with those time?

    Upperclassmen on the football team this year:
    Jarvis West: Child and Adult Family Services
    Aaron Wimberly: Liberal Studies
    Jordan Harris: Kinesiology
    Derek Ferch: Kinesiology
    Devron Moore: Liberal Studies
    Quenton Bundrage : Interdisiplinary Studies

    Sam Richardson (DB): Communications
    Kenneth Lynn: Interdisiplinary Studies
    Rob Standard: Interdisiplinary Studies
    EJ Bibbs: Liberal Studies
    Gabe Luna: Liberal Studies

    Sam Richardson (QB): Management
    Jared Brackens: Child and Adult Family Services
    Brandon Horbach: Civil Engineering
    DeVondrick Nealy: Liberal Studies
    Darian Cotton: Liberal Studies

    Mathew Thomas: Child and Adult Family Services
    Rob Meyers: Interdisiplinary Studies
    Austin Fischer: Kinesiology
    Jared Weaver: Aerospace Engineering
    Jevohn Miller: Liberal Studies
    Ben Loth: Liberal Studies

    Cory Morrissey: Kinesiology
    Brock Dagel: Kinesiology
    Tom Farniok: Kinesiology
    Jameson Lalk: Biology
    Oni Omoile: Journalism
    Bob Graham: Liberal Studies
    Brett Medders: Interdisiplinary Studies
    Hiro Sasaki: Communications
    Ben Boesen: Construction Engineering
    Tyler Harmeyer: Liberal Studies

    This is hardly a cross section of the Iowa State student population

    There are 32 upperclassmen by my count (pulled off the roster on Cyclones.com, might have missed a couple)

    4 are in what most people would consider "real" majors, three engineers and a biology major. Unless I'm mistaken Lalk and Boesen are the only two of those four that ever sees the field. Neither are starters.

    15 of the 32 are in either Liberal Studies or Interdisiplinary Studies. That is just shy of half of our upperclassmen football players.

    Are you telling me with a straight face that is not the result of who we're recruiting and the demands made by the coaching staff? If you think Paul Rhoads isn't pushing guys into the easiest degrees possible with zero consideration for how that will impact them after they leave Iowa State I have a bridge to sell you. The demands of a D-1 football player are far beyond the demands of working a part time, or even a full time 40 hour a week job. You can be a successful student and be a football player. But don't kid yourself. They don't go hand in hand. The guys that pull it off are the exception.


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    Re: Irvings major

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonestate View Post
    That was an amazingly arrogant comment. I can only assume you must have a degree in Aerospace Engineering and that you take so much pride in your accomplishment that you feel the need to incorporate your accomplishment into your Cyclonefanatic handle as well as the need to make fun of people who have a "less rigorous" degree.
    I guess it takes a rocket scientist to recognize some sarcasm around here.

    I don't think there is anything wrong with questioning athlete majors. I never met a pre liberal studies or interdisciplinary studies major in my years on campus, but looking at the football roster you would think they are the most popular majors on campus. That discrepancy exists for a reason.



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    Re: Irvings major

    This thread sucks. **** everyone who has posted in here.



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    Re: Irvings major

    Quote Originally Posted by IowaStateClones View Post
    This thread sucks. **** everyone who has posted in here.
    This adds so much. Thanks



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    Re: Irvings major

    I don't know for each major, but I was pre-journalism up to my senior year because I slacked on simply taking a grammar test. I was able to take all the classes needed to graduate, just had to take that ******* test to drop the pre part of it.


    Last edited by cyrocksmypants; 04-21-2014 at 11:55 PM. Reason: Hit the damn post button early. Stupid iPhone.

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    Re: Irvings major

    Quote Originally Posted by IowaStateClones View Post
    This thread sucks. **** everyone who has posted in here.
    Hi david



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