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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacktronic View Post
    What's Quin Snyder up to these days?
    I believe hes on an NBA coaching staff...I thought. Either way this is straight hilarious. Mizzou is Mizzou is Mizzou



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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    Hey, they should get Mike Anderson!

    Oops, forgot.


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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    I want to see Haith driving from Columbia to Tulsa in a white bronco with the NCAA chasing him in a helicopter



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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    You guys laugh at Tulsa, but they'll be joining a conference that's produced three of the last four NCAA tournament champions. And though it's been a while since they had a notable coach (the jury's still out on Danny Manning, in my view), but Nolan Richardson, Tubby Smith, Bill Self...all coaches at Tulsa, all went on to win national championships.

    It seems like a low-risk, potentially high-reward opportunity. If he can come in and make Tulsa competitive with UConn, Memphis, and Cincinnati on a regular basis, that'll win him a lot more accolades than doing well in the SEC, where his ceiling was always going to be 3rd place behind Kentucky and Florida.



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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    Quote Originally Posted by roundball View Post
    You guys laugh at Tulsa, but they'll be joining a conference that's produced three of the last four NCAA tournament champions. And though it's been a while since they had a notable coach (the jury's still out on Danny Manning, in my view), but Nolan Richardson, Tubby Smith, Bill Self...all coaches at Tulsa, all went on to win national championships.

    It seems like a low-risk, potentially high-reward opportunity. If he can come in and make Tulsa competitive with UConn, Memphis, and Cincinnati on a regular basis, that'll win him a lot more accolades than doing well in the SEC, where his ceiling was always going to be 3rd place behind Kentucky and Florida.
    Great post but we are talking about Mr. Frank Haith...he won't be on that list



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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    Quote Originally Posted by roundball View Post
    You guys laugh at Tulsa, but they'll be joining a conference that's produced three of the last four NCAA tournament champions.
    lol, ok. in name only. and not even then as it used to be the big east. The AAC is basically a midmajor plus UConn at this point, and id place strong bets that the AAC will, with time, drag UConn's basketball down. I mean look at this chart. Almost every team is just a team that got 'promoted' from CUSA in the last 10 years.




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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    lol, ok. in name only. and not even then as it used to be the big east. The AAC is basically a midmajor plus UConn at this point, and id place strong bets that the AAC will, with time, drag UConn's basketball down. I mean look at this chart. Almost every team is just a team that got 'promoted' from CUSA in the last 10 years.

    Mostly true, although Cincinnati and Memphis are also both historically decent programs. What the AAC really needs is for SMU to not be a one-year fluke and a couple of the Tulsa or USF type programs to at least rise up to bubble team level.



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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    Quote Originally Posted by roundball View Post
    You guys laugh at Tulsa, but they'll be joining a conference that's produced three of the last four NCAA tournament champions. And though it's been a while since they had a notable coach (the jury's still out on Danny Manning, in my view), but Nolan Richardson, Tubby Smith, Bill Self...all coaches at Tulsa, all went on to win national championships.

    It seems like a low-risk, potentially high-reward opportunity. If he can come in and make Tulsa competitive with UConn, Memphis, and Cincinnati on a regular basis, that'll win him a lot more accolades than doing well in the SEC, where his ceiling was always going to be 3rd place behind Kentucky and Florida.
    My intent of this thread wasn't to bash Tulsa. I think it is a great school with an over-achieving athletic department that has demonstrated sustained success. I think it is a step down from Missouri though (especially given today's perception of conferences). Yes, 3 of the last 4 NCAA champions came from that conference (the AAC). 1 (Louisville) is leaving that conference and the other (UCONN) wants out of the AAC desperately. I think that should tell you all you need to know about the AAC.


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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    Hey, they should get Mike Anderson!

    Oops, forgot.
    How about Fran McCaffrey, maybe frannie boy would like to step up to the big time of sec athletics...Just saying that nothing is out of the realm of possibility when mizzou is involved...



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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    Quote Originally Posted by roundball View Post
    You guys laugh at Tulsa, but they'll be joining a conference that's produced three of the last four NCAA tournament champions. And though it's been a while since they had a notable coach (the jury's still out on Danny Manning, in my view), but Nolan Richardson, Tubby Smith, Bill Self...all coaches at Tulsa, all went on to win national championships.

    It seems like a low-risk, potentially high-reward opportunity. If he can come in and make Tulsa competitive with UConn, Memphis, and Cincinnati on a regular basis, that'll win him a lot more accolades than doing well in the SEC, where his ceiling was always going to be 3rd place behind Kentucky and Florida.
    I don't really think anyone was laughing at Tulsa.

    I agree with you that Tulsa seems like they could be in a position to make a bigger splash in the upcoming years. Once they position themselves a little better conference-wise, they can possibly hang onto a proven coach.

    I work with several (i.e. too many) Missouri fans and not a single one was upset at this news. Most were happy to see him go out of fear of NCAA sanctions. It didn't stop me from telling them that they couldn't even hang onto a ****** coach, of course. I heard enough yapping from them during the McDermott years.



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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    lol, ok. in name only. and not even then as it used to be the big east. The AAC is basically a midmajor plus UConn at this point, and id place strong bets that the AAC will, with time, drag UConn's basketball down. I mean look at this chart. Almost every team is just a team that got 'promoted' from CUSA in the last 10 years.

    And yet, half of their conference spent a good share of the season ranked.

    I'm not saying it's a powerful conference (and have posted messages here that dog the AP voters for over-ranking their teams), but that it's a good opportunity for a school like Tulsa and a coach like Haith. It's a chance to make a splash, which he plainly wasn't doing at Missouri.



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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    I must have missed something, did Danny Manning leave Tulsa?



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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    Larry's name came up for next coach at MU. On the radio, the comment was "He Likes Columbia."



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    Re: Frank Haith leaving Missouri for...Tulsa

    Quote Originally Posted by roundball View Post
    And yet, half of their conference spent a good share of the season ranked.

    I'm not saying it's a powerful conference (and have posted messages here that dog the AP voters for over-ranking their teams), but that it's a good opportunity for a school like Tulsa and a coach like Haith. It's a chance to make a splash, which he plainly wasn't doing at Missouri.
    As you say here, most of that conference was over-rated all year. The AP poll rewards winning, even if its against bad teams, more than it should.



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