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    As someone who played there the last two years I would say that Cap Timm (the field) really had no "Prime". It was kind of an embarassment.

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    Re: Iowa State Baseball

    Many schools have a club team even if they have a D1 team. There are 100+ club teams in NCBA


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonenation2 View Post
    Many schools have a club team even if they have a D1 team. There are 100+ club teams in NCBA
    oh i see


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    Re: Iowa State Baseball

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonenation2 View Post
    Many schools have a club team even if they have a D1 team. There are 100+ club teams in NCBA
    This is very interesting. If I might ask, what kind of credentials/experience/resume' do you and your teammates have?

    I mean this in all seriousness. My sons wants to go to ISU, but also wants to pursue baseball after high school.



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    Re: Iowa State Baseball

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddykane View Post
    what would it take for the baseball team to be d1
    Always wondered this too, never understood why ISU doesn't have a D1 baseball team. No $ for it? Title 9?


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    As a field, I thought Cap Timm was beautiful. It was a true college field that didn't try to look like a minor league field, which I like.

    Other than the field, it was an embarrassment. It had no "stadium" feel to it. It was poor for the fans.

    As someone who's played on it, I love it. As someone who's watched games there, I hated it. But it definitely had a college feel to it, and not a crap shoot baseball field feel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik4Cy View Post
    Always wondered this too, never understood why ISU doesn't have a D1 baseball team. No $ for it? Title 9?
    Have to offer the same amount of scholarships for women as you have for men. So having a football team takes up so many scholarships, which is why we have more woman sports than male sports.


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    Re: Iowa State Baseball

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCubswin View Post
    Have to offer the same amount of scholarships for women as you have for men. So having a football team takes up so many scholarships, which is why we have more woman sports than male sports.
    Ahh ic thanks. I always hated that rule. I know a lot of women athletes who want to further women's athletics but not at the cost of men's sports. I just don't get how anyone can like denying ANY kid (male or female) from playing a high level sport if the University can support it.


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    Re: Iowa State Baseball

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik4Cy View Post
    Always wondered this too, never understood why ISU doesn't have a D1 baseball team. No $ for it? Title 9?
    I believe it's been stated numerous times that Title IX is not an issue for bringing back baseball. It's all about the $$. Would be tens of millions of dollars to get the program back on its feet - new stadium, competitive coaches salaries, scholarships, etc.

    It might happen some day, but that day is a very long ways off.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Cyclones View Post
    This is very interesting. If I might ask, what kind of credentials/experience/resume' do you and your teammates have?I mean this in all seriousness. My sons wants to go to ISU, but also wants to pursue baseball after high school.
    mostly either like 3rd team all-conference or something to that extent. Most of them played at either 3-A or 4-A but some played in other states like Minnesota. The club level is for people mostly looking for fun, of course they want to win but they are at a club level for a reason. I've tried out in the past, you get put on a team and play some practice games. They pick usually 15-25 people to then officially try out for the team and pick about half or whatever they need to fill in the roster.


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    Re: Iowa State Baseball

    Quote Originally Posted by IHavNoCyCash View Post
    mostly either like 3rd team all-conference or something to that extent. Most of them played at either 3-A or 4-A but some played in other states like Minnesota. The club level is for people mostly looking for fun, of course they want to win but they are at a club level for a reason. I've tried out in the past, you get put on a team and play some practice games. They pick usually 15-25 people to then officially try out for the team and pick about half or whatever they need to fill in the roster.
    Yes that is correct there is a fall league and like last fall there was around 90 who started and then 21 were brought to 2 weekend tryout and 6 were selected. Based on baseball skill, attendance to fall league and overall attitude. Selections are made by current spring/traveling team memebers


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    Re: Iowa State Baseball

    Title 9 was not ever and is not an issue for baseball. At the time that they cut the program both Eustachey and McCarney got raises and the school lost money on a recent bowl game trip. Van de Velde, who would rather slash than pick up a phone and try to raise money decided they needed to cut sports.

    NCAA rules state that you have to have 6 mens sports and 6 womens sports. This helps keep the track sports because they basically count as 3 sports in one. The baseball team it's final year was operating on less than $400,000 a year budget. In the meeting, when asked if there was any chance to save the team, Van de Velde said that an endowment of $2,000,000 would need to be set up to ensure the team could continue. That money was pledged by the end of the day but Van de Velde would not accept it.

    IF baseball were to ever come back it would need a larger budget. But, with relaxed alcohol policies, if marketed right I beleive it could operate at about break even. BUT, a big donor would have to step up and provide a stadium that would AT LEAST put us in the middle of the pack in the Big 12, so you are looking at about $11 million startup then operating costs would still be relatively small compared to other sports.\

    Moral of the story, if you are looking for a REASON why there is no baseball at Iowa State, it's the laziness and ineptitude of Bruce Van de Velde


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    Re: Iowa State Baseball

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    Title 9 was not ever and is not an issue for baseball. At the time that they cut the program both Eustachey and McCarney got raises and the school lost money on a recent bowl game trip. Van de Velde, who would rather slash than pick up a phone and try to raise money decided they needed to cut sports.

    NCAA rules state that you have to have 6 mens sports and 6 womens sports. This helps keep the track sports because they basically count as 3 sports in one. The baseball team it's final year was operating on less than $400,000 a year budget. In the meeting, when asked if there was any chance to save the team, Van de Velde said that an endowment of $2,000,000 would need to be set up to ensure the team could continue. That money was pledged by the end of the day but Van de Velde would not accept it.

    IF baseball were to ever come back it would need a larger budget. But, with relaxed alcohol policies, if marketed right I beleive it could operate at about break even. BUT, a big donor would have to step up and provide a stadium that would AT LEAST put us in the middle of the pack in the Big 12, so you are looking at about $11 million startup then operating costs would still be relatively small compared to other sports.\

    Moral of the story, if you are looking for a REASON why there is no baseball at Iowa State, it's the laziness and ineptitude of Bruce Van de Velde
    So money is what stands in the middle
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    Re: Iowa State Baseball

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    Title 9 was not ever and is not an issue for baseball. At the time that they cut the program both Eustachey and McCarney got raises and the school lost money on a recent bowl game trip. Van de Velde, who would rather slash than pick up a phone and try to raise money decided they needed to cut sports.

    NCAA rules state that you have to have 6 mens sports and 6 womens sports. This helps keep the track sports because they basically count as 3 sports in one. The baseball team it's final year was operating on less than $400,000 a year budget. In the meeting, when asked if there was any chance to save the team, Van de Velde said that an endowment of $2,000,000 would need to be set up to ensure the team could continue. That money was pledged by the end of the day but Van de Velde would not accept it.

    IF baseball were to ever come back it would need a larger budget. But, with relaxed alcohol policies, if marketed right I beleive it could operate at about break even. BUT, a big donor would have to step up and provide a stadium that would AT LEAST put us in the middle of the pack in the Big 12, so you are looking at about $11 million startup then operating costs would still be relatively small compared to other sports.\

    Moral of the story, if you are looking for a REASON why there is no baseball at Iowa State, it's the laziness and ineptitude of Bruce Van de Velde
    Thank you. Maybe we should've held off on the SEZ building and get the Reiman's to fund ISU baseball first. (just in case some SEZ people jump all over me.)


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