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    Re: *** Official 2014 NBA Playoffs Thread ***

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonesince78 View Post
    How often do you see zone defense in the NBA? Not too often. Non-factor.
    Well the only team that has beat LeBron in a playoff series in the last four years did it with a defense using lots of zone concepts that would have been illegal back in Jordan's playing days.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CyJack13 View Post
    Well the only team that has beat LeBron in a playoff series in the last four years did it with a defense using lots of zone concepts that would have been illegal back in Jordan's playing days.
    Jordan would have preferred the zone compared to the constant double and triple teams that he faced. Jordan never was single covered.



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    Re: *** Official 2014 NBA Playoffs Thread ***

    Quote Originally Posted by CyJack13 View Post
    Yeah it always cracks me up when people think the hand checking rules would negatively affect the guy who's 6'8" 260 lbs and a freak athlete. He's got an inch and 50 lbs on Dennis Rodman who was one of the best defensive players ever. LeBron would probably have been the greatest defender ever with those rules.
    While he definitely has the physical attributes I really don't think he is mentally aggressive enough to really excerpt himself with that rule. I don't care what his weight and size is I'll take Jordan every time if it's a one on one situation between the two. A prime example would be in the all star game a couple years ago when Kobe (similar size to Jordan) single handedly shut down LeBron when the game got competitive in the fourth quarter including a couple "return to senders".

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6XxsN8jITds



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    Re: *** Official 2014 NBA Playoffs Thread ***

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonesince78 View Post
    Jordan would have preferred the zone compared to the constant double and triple teams that he faced. Jordan never was single covered.
    it was illegal to double off the ball in Jordan's day. Lebron doesn't face many true zone defenses but he faces zone-like defenses every single game. The days of true man to man defense have been dead for years. That's why guys who can't shoot kill offenses more now than they did in Jordan's prime. Now that guys defender can sag close to the paint to cut off driving lanes.



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    We can go back and forth about differences between each era, but the bottom line undisputed fact is that it was much more difficult to score in the 80's and 90's because of the rules. Ask any analyst or nba expert and all of them will agree with that. Phil Jackson said Jordan would average like 50 points a game in today's nba. Lebron fans can try to manufacture this into a debate, but there is no debate.



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    Re: *** Official 2014 NBA Playoffs Thread ***

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonesince78 View Post
    We can go back and forth about differences between each era, but the bottom line undisputed fact is that it was much more difficult to score in the 80's and 90's because of the rules. Ask any analyst or nba expert and all of them will agree with that. Phil Jackson said Jordan would average like 50 points a game in today's nba. Lebron fans can try to manufacture this into a debate, but there is no debate.
    Well the fact that there was a lot more scoring in the 80's than today would seem to dispute that but you don't seem like a guy who is really interested in facts.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CyJack13 View Post
    Well the fact that there was a lot more scoring in the 80's than today would seem to dispute that but you don't seem like a guy who is really interested in facts.
    Feel free to drop a link from an analyst or anyone reputable in NBA circles that disputes anything that I said. Take your time, I'll wait.



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    Re: *** Official 2014 NBA Playoffs Thread ***

    Quin Snyder is going to be the head coach of the Utah Jazz. Seriously? I only remember him from his Missouri days, but he never seemed like a good coach.



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    Football is just a stupid game. Who cares who has the better football team. It's just a game.

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    Re: *** Official 2014 NBA Playoffs Thread ***

    Can we ban all talk of Michael Jordan in this thread. Unless he does something related to the current playoffs/offseason, take it to a different thread, please?



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    Re: *** Official 2014 NBA Playoffs Thread ***

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonesince78 View Post
    Sure it would have made him a better defender, but his offense is what I am referring to.
    Growing up with it and always playing like that? Doesn't matter. It would have made him tougher and I'm sorry but if you give LeBron a little more intensity and aggression, which that style bred, he's impossible. I would say it just wouldn't matter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonesince78 View Post
    Feel free to drop a link from an analyst or anyone reputable in NBA circles that disputes anything that I said. Take your time, I'll wait.
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...NBA_stats.html

    It isn't even close.


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    Re: *** Official 2014 NBA Playoffs Thread ***

    And that's with over double the amount of threes attempted and made


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    Re: *** Official 2014 NBA Playoffs Thread ***

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    And how exactly does that dispute anything that I said?



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    Re: *** Official 2014 NBA Playoffs Thread ***

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonesince78 View Post
    And how exactly does that dispute anything that I said?



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