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    Re: Lost Letterman is a fan of the whirly bird...

    Quote Originally Posted by jkclone View Post
    People knew the whirlybird logo just as much as the I State logo.
    As far as people in Ames or Iowa are concerned you are probably right, but not nationally. They whirlybird was very unrecognizable to people outside the state. Something that did help the Whirlybird out was the fact that ISU used it for so long through the McCarney years. It was the helmet logo for at least twice as long as pretty much every other one. Duration is about the only thing that helped it's poor branding. Give the I-State logo that much time and everyone will know who it is, if they don't already. I am also someone whose freshman year at ISU was 2004. We still had the whirlybird and I fell in love with Cyclone sports after growing up a hawkeye from watching Seneca Wallace and Troy Davis run in those helmets and jerseys.

    I wasn't against them, it is just that they aren't branding. I guess I just agree with Jamie Pollard that it wasn't branding enough. I think we've done a much better job of getting the "I-State" out there, but I actually like the old walking Cy as the best logo, it unfortunately carries the same problem as the whirlybird.

    Quote Originally Posted by RubyClone View Post
    As a student during that tenure - it creates a visceral and near violent negative reaction. And it was never really used outside of FB that I recall.

    For my money, this is still the best ISU has to offer - and the variations for the major sports



    Problem is that it doesn't "brand" all that well. The current I-State really is pretty sweet for that IMO.

    Nothing is as bad as blender-bird. And for me, it really went off the rails when they started with that damn blue "accent" color. You can see it in TD's jersey in that piece. And i remember in the '01, '02 season in particular when the FB players would wear colder weather gear that was a dark blue. WTF?




    But that's also probably a factor of what was the logo when you attached yourself to ISU.
    Thank you. those Cys were the BEST logo and you are spot on with the only problem with them compared to the "I-State" logo. I just do not understand the love of the whirlybird logo. And that blue was awful.

    I mostly agree about the attachment to ISU factor but I did get attached during all the whirlybird years and I realize the people back in the day had a much better logo than our 90's-2000s did. I'm not even saying today's "I-State" logo is a better designed logo or anything, just that from a marketing and branding standpoint it is better nationally.



    All of those were better than this:


    These ones I've always been kind of one the fence about/can't decide if I really like them or not:



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    Re: Lost Letterman is a fan of the whirly bird...

    Quote Originally Posted by MeanDean View Post
    When the guy calls an ISU logo a combination of a HAWK and anything else he's truly destined to be WRONG.

    The end.

    If he were going for the Criner 1980's Tornado/Iowa State logo I'd at least be able to understand it.

    I found my ISU hockey jersey with that logo on there. The early-mid ISU Hockey gear was pretty sweet



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    Re: Lost Letterman is a fan of the whirly bird...

    i agree on the double stripes being unnecessary, actually too much. but your helmets are sweet. the "I" logo is the best i've ever seen at ames. the bird in a blender was not.


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    Re: Lost Letterman is a fan of the whirly bird...

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik4Cy View Post
    As far as people in Ames or Iowa are concerned you are probably right, but not nationally. They whirlybird was very unrecognizable to people outside the state. Something that did help the Whirlybird out was the fact that ISU used it for so long through the McCarney years. It was the helmet logo for at least twice as long as pretty much every other one. Duration is about the only thing that helped it's poor branding. Give the I-State logo that much time and everyone will know who it is, if they don't already. I am also someone whose freshman year at ISU was 2004. We still had the whirlybird and I fell in love with Cyclone sports after growing up a hawkeye from watching Seneca Wallace and Troy Davis run in those helmets and jerseys.

    I wasn't against them, it is just that they aren't branding. I guess I just agree with Jamie Pollard that it wasn't branding enough. I think we've done a much better job of getting the "I-State" out there, but I actually like the old walking Cy as the best logo, it unfortunately carries the same problem as the whirlybird.
    I'm sorry this just doesn't make any sense. Really comparing logos from different eras is nearly impossible though. With the advent of new technology like the internet and everyone on tv of course new logos will be more recognizable. I also don't think that the whirly bird was used the longest. I don't know dates or anything but wasn't the cyclone cy used in like the early 60's through the 90's. That is 30 years. The whirly bird was used from the 90's until 2006 or whenever that is 16 years or so.

    When you use them all the same and at the same time the one that best represents Iowa State is the whirly bird one. I can understand that some don't like the blue and can also understand if some don't like it because of what it is associated with. I get that people have developed personal opinions on the logos.

    That said the updated version with the darker red replacing the blue is the single best representation of Iowa State. Whether it is your favorite or not is something different. If someone from say Africa was given an understanding of Iowa State and what a cyclone is and told to pick which would be best representative I would be surprised if they didn't pick the whirly bird.



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    Re: Lost Letterman is a fan of the whirly bird...

    The toilet Cy looked horrible on the helmets. No one could tell what in the hell it was supposed to be

    Used as a TV graphic it was no better than a random ink stain. I-State isn't perfect, but a huge step up from the McCarney era branding.



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