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    Re: Replace shingles

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    There isn't a house in my area that is over 10 years old
    Recent storms in the area? Whenever we have gotten hail in the past, anywhere in the Chicago area, I get a call from roofers and siding guys saying they can get it all replaced for free. Not sure how they pull it off when there is no damage (been around building all my life, I know when it's time to replace a roof and or siding). But when those calls start coming around, I notice more than a few people in my neighborhood take advantage.



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    Re: Replace shingles

    You probably have certain teed shingles that got recalled. There have been tons of problems with them, and you should qualify to get 30-70 a square back



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    Re: Replace shingles

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    It seems like every house in my neighborhood has been getting new shingles over the last 6 months. A lot of different builders so I assume different shingles. How long do they usually last and what's the cost for an average two story house?
    Don't you live in Johnston? I know there was a hail storm that went through at the end of last summer and a bunch of people in my neighborhood have gotten new roofs since.

    It will cost you your deductible if there is damage. Call them up and have them send somebody to take a look.


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    Re: Replace shingles

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamJGray View Post
    Don't you live in Johnston? I know there was a hail storm that went through at the end of last summer and a bunch of people in my neighborhood have gotten new roofs since.

    It will cost you your deductible if there is damage. Call them up and have them send somebody to take a look.
    yes. I may have to do this



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    Re: Replace shingles

    Quote Originally Posted by CyKrog View Post
    Owens corning offers 50 year warranties if you have a certified contractor install them. Depends on how many square of roofing you have and how steep, but I would guess about 8k.
    If you have a good hailstorm the 30s and 50s will have the same life.


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    Re: Replace shingles

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    Severe storms with strong wind and hail can quickly reduce the lifespan of your shingles.

    I love how every house in my neighborhood had enough damage to replace the roof (all essentially the same age houses with original roofs) but my insurance company contended that my roof only needed 4 squares replaced.

    I pointed out the giant mounds of aggregate under my downspouts and he said that is what they are supposed to do - they absorb the hits and shed aggregate. When I pointed out the denuded spots on the shingles where the aggregate was supposed to be he didn't have an answer for me. I got a reinspection and that guy was even worse than the first guy.

    Last fall after strong winds and slightly defective Tamko shingles last for 8 year old house, I had to buy a new roof. $10k fix with Tamko contributing an additional $2k. Had the new ridgeline blow off a month later. This was fixed in a couple days. I estimate for how my house is located that winds can reach 80-100 mph at times. The insurance company Farmers would not fix shingles that had lost a lot of their grit. They did lower my owners insurance policy after new roof. Just the breaks of the game.


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    Re: Replace shingles

    When has it become not normal to place a second layer over a single layer? This was the norm for years. In fact, I did this to my own house in the 90's.

    Does it have to do with the new code requirement for ice dam?


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    Re: Replace shingles

    Quote Originally Posted by DJSteve View Post
    Have you had any high winds / storm damage? I'd think even cheap asphalt shingles should last longer than 10 years.
    My question as well. We had a hail storm go through a couple years ago and just about everyone in the hood got a free new roof. I think ours would've been about $15K had insurance not paid.



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    Re: Replace shingles

    Quote Originally Posted by MeanDean View Post
    When has it become not normal to place a second layer over a single layer? This was the norm for years. In fact, I did this to my own house in the 90's.

    Does it have to do with the new code requirement for ice dam?
    You are probably right. If you dont get all the layers off, you cant see if there is any other damage done to the roof. Plus, its a shortcut, and in construction, you do not take shortcuts.


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    Re: Replace shingles

    Lots of pretty good shingles out there, however, stay away from Atlas. Atlas is a good looking shingle with an acceptable price but with terrible warranty support.



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    Re: Replace shingles

    When the big hail storm came through my town nearly everyone in town got a new roof. My agent that came out barely spent 5 minutes on the roof before writing me a check.

    Then I got a check back for my deductible about 4 months later. Apparently because i had the car and auto with the same company, they only wanted 1 deductible.


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    Re: Replace shingles

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    There isn't a house in my area that is over 10 years old
    Are they those biodegradable shingles? Every house in my neighborhood had them and we all had to replace between 8 and 10 years.


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    Re: Replace shingles

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    yes. I may have to do this
    As an adjuster in Des Moines, I know there were areas of Johnston that did get hail last summer/fall which came from the west with high winds. A lot of the roofs I looked at had damage to west slopes mainly.

    In regards to tear off, keep in mind if you just keep adding layers of shingles, not only are you decreasing the life expectancy, but the roof framing itself is designed to support ONE layer of shingles. If you live in Johnston, tearoff down to the sheathing and ice and water shield is city code.

    I've been on more than a few roofs that have 3 to 4 layers with some having the bottom layer as cedar shakes. The insurance companies will pay for the additional tear off in those cases because of the concern with roof collapses.

    If you have 4 layers and a heavy snow load some winter...look out! Especially if we get an ice storm that drops tree branches onto your roof.

    Laminate (architectual) shingles are basically the norm now...and I agree, if it says it has a 30 year life expectancy, you're doing great if you get 20 out of them...



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    Re: Replace shingles

    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    Are they those biodegradable shingles? Every house in my neighborhood had them and we all had to replace between 8 and 10 years.
    Those shingles are terrible...sad thing is whenever a storm gets close to an area, I always have 2 or 3 people claiming that is a result of hail...easy to discern the difference after being on more than a thousand roofs...

    The manufacturer makes you jump through hoops to get the refund as well...



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    Re: Replace shingles

    Quote Originally Posted by MeanDean View Post
    When has it become not normal to place a second layer over a single layer? This was the norm for years. In fact, I did this to my own house in the 90's.

    Does it have to do with the new code requirement for ice dam?
    I don't think there are too many places that DON'T allow you to. I've done a number of roofs and personally, I think they lay better without the second layer. Just preference.

    We did my house three years ago and part of it had THREE layers on. Half that roof was just pure nail. We figured there was a good 4 tons + of roofing on that 18 square. God what a pain.


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