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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyclones View Post
    Was never the best player on any of his teams. Most of his career ranking are due the his ranking in number of games played. Season averages don't warrant it. Got the nod for POY as a career award. Was a good player for four years. Not a focal point on offense. Hoiberg admitted he only had a small section of plays for him.

    He was a great cyclone. But not worthy of hanging from the rafters. Save it for our best players.
    You are ******* ********. In the era of one and dones, no one gives a flying **** about years played. Ejim earned that award.

    **** off to the Hawk board with that garbage



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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyclones View Post
    Was never the best player on any of his teams. Most of his career ranking are due the his ranking in number of games played. Season averages don't warrant it. Got the nod for POY as a career award. Was a good player for four years. Not a focal point on offense. Hoiberg admitted he only had a small section of plays for him.

    He was a great cyclone. But not worthy of hanging from the rafters. Save it for our best players.
    1- not the best player on the team, but best in the conference?

    2- he didn't have many designed plays because he went and got his



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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyclones View Post
    Was never the best player on any of his teams. Most of his career ranking are due the his ranking in number of games played. Season averages don't warrant it. Got the nod for POY as a career award. Was a good player for four years. Not a focal point on offense. Hoiberg admitted he only had a small section of plays for him.

    He was a great cyclone. But not worthy of hanging from the rafters. Save it for our best players.
    Per40 stats are as good as Hoibergs. Stop it with you degradation of his POY award. If Kane or Niang were thought to be more productive by coaches, they would have gotten it. If you don't put his up you will never have justification for another one.


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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by mitten1975 View Post
    Ejim is one of my favorite all time Cyclones. Superlatives aren't enough. I hope I meet him in heaven someday.
    I met him at Cy's one night...that was good enough for me!


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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dingus View Post
    Sorry, but this is lame. A reasonable argument can be made either way. There are a number of great ISU players that do not have their jerseys retired.

    Not applying this to Ejim, but count me in the camp that thinks retiring jerseys should be for the elite of the elite (I feel the same way for baseball Hall of Fame, etc.).
    Melvin will be in the ISU HOF. I'm still sold that his jersey should be raised, but I'm wavering a little on the topic.
    Even if they do retire his #, it won't be for a few years.



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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by allday4cy View Post
    Tough guy. I would like to meet you lol
    So you call him a tough guy and then make your own tough guy statement? Neat.



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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyclones View Post
    Was never the best player on any of his teams. Most of his career ranking are due the his ranking in number of games played. Season averages don't warrant it. Got the nod for POY as a career award. Was a good player for four years. Not a focal point on offense. Hoiberg admitted he only had a small section of plays for him.

    He was a great cyclone. But not worthy of hanging from the rafters. Save it for our best players.
    The hate is heavy, huh? Fred would probably also admit that with out Mel we probably don't get into the tournament the last two years. His numbers in conference play are phenomenal!


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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Rafter worthy players show up for Sweet 16 games. He made the coaches of all Big 12 teams look like fools for the last 4 games of his career. Fantastic 4 year player. Hang his pencil in Parks, but he doesn't deserve the rafters of Hilton.


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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by Swanson10 View Post
    Rafter worthy players show up for Sweet 16 games. He made the coaches of all Big 12 teams look like fools for the last 4 games of his career. Fantastic 4 year player. Hang his pencil in Parks, but he doesn't deserve the rafters of Hilton.
    Melvin's been making a significant portion of the fanbase look like fools for 3 years now so maybe it balances out.


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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dingus View Post
    Sorry, but this is lame. A reasonable argument can be made either way. There are a number of great ISU players that do not have their jerseys retired.

    Not applying this to Ejim, but count me in the camp that thinks retiring jerseys should be for the elite of the elite (I feel the same way for baseball Hall of Fame, etc.).
    Melvin will be in the ISU HOF. I'm still sold that his jersey should be raised, but I'm wavering a little on the topic.
    Even if they do retire his #, it won't be for a few years.



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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    1- not the best player on the team, but best in the conference?

    2- he didn't have many designed plays because he went and got his
    1-I think all of his bolstered numbers this year were a result of Kane and Niang creating.
    2-While that is very true, where the **** was he tonight?



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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    I think it's crazy how emotional people get with people that don't agree with them on this.



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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyclones View Post
    Was never the best player on any of his teams. Most of his career ranking are due the his ranking in number of games played. Season averages don't warrant it. Got the nod for POY as a career award. Was a good player for four years. Not a focal point on offense. Hoiberg admitted he only had a small section of plays for him.

    He was a great cyclone. But not worthy of hanging from the rafters. Save it for our best players.
    He has the stats and accolades to be considered one of our best players. If you are going save it for truly the best players, a guy like Gary Thompson probably would not be up there.



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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by Swanson10 View Post
    Rafter worthy players show up for Sweet 16 games. He made the coaches of all Big 12 teams look like fools for the last 4 games of his career. Fantastic 4 year player. Hang his pencil in Parks, but he doesn't deserve the rafters of Hilton.
    There are guys up there that never made it to a Sweet 16.



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    Re: Hang Ejim's Jersey!

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    There are guys up there that never made it to a Sweet 16.
    Yes. Excellent point.

    One of them is Fred Hoiberg.

    And I doubt anyone seriously questioned his inclusion, even before his early run of success as head coach. That's partly because jersey-retirement has no absolute definition.

    I'm in no rush to include Ejim in the rafter-of-honor. I do think he deserves a prominent place on the waiting list.


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