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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by coolerifyoudid View Post
    Great point. It's easy to get caught up with how the loss of Georges affects our team now, but the recruiting aspect isn't one I'd considered. Although, I'd hope most recruits would have a pretty good idea of Fred's system and players if they were giving us a serious look.
    Even though recruits can't see how Fred utilizes Georges, Fred's utilization of him seems to be the big talking point for the media when talking about his injury. While that isn't as effective of a recruiting pitch as actually seeing the mismatches in action, it's still a good recruiting tool.



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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyJones View Post
    Sorry if this is the wrong thread. How does the juco transfer, Atwood, who Iowa is recruiting, stack up against any of the bigs we are recruiting? Would he be worth recruiting if he would redshirt next season?

    Thanks.
    I really like Atwood and think he'll be a great get for whoever signs him. I doubt he'd be willing to redshirt a year at Iowa State though given all of his other options that offer immediate playing time. And if he weren't to redshirt I'm not sure it'd make much sense to bring in another forward in the same class as Niang, Nader, and McKay. He'd be dynamic in Iowa State's offense though.



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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    How does he fit in with Oleseni(4), White(3/4), and Uthoff(3/4) at the 3/4 over at Iowa? Do they need a 6'8" guy or are they worried that they might get below the 10 man rotation? I'll throw in Kyle Meyer for laughs.



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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    How does he fit in with Oleseni(4), White(3/4), and Uthoff(3/4) at the 3/4 over at Iowa? Do they need a 6'8" guy or are they worried that they might get below the 10 man rotation? I'll throw in Kyle Meyer for laughs.
    That's been confusing to me about the Atwood thing at Iowa. I get that he'd probably be an upgrade, but wouldn't forward be way less of a worry for them than guard? Is he enough better than any of those three guys to make up for them rolling out a Gessell and Jok starting backcourt next year?



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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015


    Originally Posted by Jsievers24

    Look at the scholarship chart. We don't have room for more than 1-2 guys in 2015. Long, Nader, McKay, Niang all seniors. Morris and Thomas Juniors. Custer Sophomore. Big recruits will want to play or have a chance.



    Big recruits will look at that this summer and next November and say "I have a great chance at playing time". A bunch of unproven guys, role players, and average recruits are not going to scare off top recruits. And we have Georges, not only a great player to be on the court with, but a perfect example of letting talent see the floor from Day 1. You have to remember the teams we are going against have even more competition for playing time.

    We will likely have at least 3 openings (Gibson, Edozie, Hogue), maybe even as many as 5 openings with the addition of a 5th year or two this spring plus the normal transfer out. A lot of offensive firepower in our top targets. Hopefully Noskowiak becomes available.
    Adding Grandstaff, Noskowiak, Ellenson, Darien Williams (juco), and Johnny Woodard (juco) to Georges, Morris, Long, McKay, Nader, Thomas, Custer, and SDW would make an incredibly talented and complete team.
    Looking at scholly charts the way we do things is useless. We add late guys. Guys transfer out. To much stuff goes on every year to wonder about schollarships. Right now I am predicting we have 4 schollarships for 2014 and 1 is filled. Just my opinion


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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    Looking at scholly charts the way we do things is useless. We add late guys. Guys transfer out. To much stuff goes on every year to wonder about schollarships. Right now I am predicting we have 4 schollarships for 2014 and 1 is filled. Just my opinion
    Scholly chart or not, the chance of it not being a 3-5 member class is low.



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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    That's been confusing to me about the Atwood thing at Iowa. I get that he'd probably be an upgrade, but wouldn't forward be way less of a worry for them than guard? Is he enough better than any of those three guys to make up for them rolling out a Gessell and Jok starting backcourt next year?
    This. I almost hope they get him so Fran can screw it up again. Maybe Atwood has more guard skills than his listed height of 6'8" indicates. He's probably only 6'6" if the typical inflation is involved and maybe can be a good "3".



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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Cincyclone View Post
    I really like Atwood and think he'll be a great get for whoever signs him. I doubt he'd be willing to redshirt a year at Iowa State though given all of his other options that offer immediate playing time. And if he weren't to redshirt I'm not sure it'd make much sense to bring in another forward in the same class as Niang, Nader, and McKay. He'd be dynamic in Iowa State's offense though.

    Thanks. If he's that good, I hope he doesn't land on a team that's on our schedule anytime soon.



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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    Atwood is really athletic and has a pretty good face-up game. He's kinda like a bigger Basabe had Basabe ever developed at all. I'm guessing Fran wants to rotate Woodbury and Olaseni at center. Uthoff will stay on the perimeter and White might as well (though if he does he better learn how to shoot) so I think there's a need positionally for Iowa.



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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    Ellenson also played PG up til freshman/sophomore year in high school. Like Royce.



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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    With two scholly slots open, does anyone know if we fill both those for next year?

    If we do, who is in the running to get those scholarships?



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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    How does he fit in with Oleseni(4), White(3/4), and Uthoff(3/4) at the 3/4 over at Iowa? Do they need a 6'8" guy or are they worried that they might get below the 10 man rotation? I'll throw in Kyle Meyer for laughs.

    You need to discuss this with Herby on Rivals.



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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Cincyclone View Post
    Henry Ellenson would be amazing in Fred's system. He has a little bit of Royce in him I think. Big, runs like a gazelle, can handle the ball...fingers crossed that Fred nabs him!

    So, you've heard the Larry Bird/Kevin Love stuff, too?



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    Re: New Rivals 150 ISU Targets 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyJones View Post
    Sorry if this is the wrong thread. How does the juco transfer, Atwood, who Iowa is recruiting, stack up against any of the bigs we are recruiting? Would he be worth recruiting if he would redshirt next season?

    Thanks.
    Let me ask you this...were you a fan of Glen Worley?


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