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    Re: Manhattan's Masiello Possibly Without ANY Job

    I don't think it's unreasonable for a college coach to be required to have a college degree, considering part of their job out to be to encourage and assist players in earning their own degrees.

    For a lot of jobs, I must agree that it's an unnecessary requirement, but for a job like a college coach I think it's logical.



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    Re: Manhattan's Masiello Possibly Without ANY Job

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCubswin View Post
    Kind of off topic, but what if Kobe Bryant retires from the NBA and wants to try coaching college basketball? Sure, he's never played, but he'd get damn near any recruit he wanted just because of his name. Would a place not hire him because he didn't have a degree?
    You have to remember, the only thing preventing it would be University policies, not the law - unless any state's require public universities to only hire graduated employees. A lot of academic institutions hold coaches to the same standard as a professor.

    While I don't think a diploma has nearly the importance it once did, you could argue that you have to put in place some measurable level of standard to hold employees to since it's still an educational institution, even if it's the athletics department.

    With that said - there is often time a formal policy that sets a minimum and then a "preference" that you'd like to see, but that preference can be side-stepped for the right person. In this case, it looks like it might be the set policy that wasn't met - as well as the apparent dishonesty within the filed paperwork.


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    Re: Manhattan's Masiello Possibly Without ANY Job

    How much you wanna bet Masiello just didn't pay for his cap and gown



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    Re: Manhattan's Masiello Possibly Without ANY Job

    Quote Originally Posted by theantiAIRBHG View Post
    How much you wanna bet Masiello just didn't pay for his cap and gown
    Who can blame him, what a racket that is.



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    Louisville's new recruiting strategy when going against Kentucky: "hey...they'll tell people you didn't graduate! I got guys in the registrars office...you call up and ask if one of my guys graduated...'hell yes he graduated...cum laude, matter of fact!'"



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    I have to pay $75 just to apply for graduation at Iowa State.

    I guess the $40 I paid to apply to Iowa State, and tens of thousands I've spent on sporting events and tuition for the school didn't cover a sheet of paper that said I graduated.


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    Re: Manhattan's Masiello Possibly Without ANY Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    You have to remember, the only thing preventing it would be University policies, not the law - unless any state's require public universities to only hire graduated employees. A lot of academic institutions hold coaches to the same standard as a professor.

    While I don't think a diploma has nearly the importance it once did, you could argue that you have to put in place some measurable level of standard to hold employees to since it's still an educational institution, even if it's the athletics department.

    With that said - there is often time a formal policy that sets a minimum and then a "preference" that you'd like to see, but that preference can be side-stepped for the right person. In this case, it looks like it might be the set policy that wasn't met - as well as the apparent dishonesty within the filed paperwork.
    Maybe I just haven't been reading the right articles, but has it ever said that he needed to have a diploma to coach there? I thought USF backed off because he lied on his resume, and if he hadn't, he could have gotten the job.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WooClone15 View Post
    Maybe I just haven't been reading the right articles, but has it ever said that he needed to have a diploma to coach there? I thought USF backed off because he lied on his resume, and if he hadn't, he could have gotten the job.
    This should answer that question, although I'm sure the lying would have hurt even if a college degree wasn't required.

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...o-lying-resume

    According to the job description posted by USF, the head coaching job "requires a Master's degree in an appropriate area of specialization and six years of coaching experience at the high school level or above; or a bachelor's degree in an appropriate area of specialization and eight years experience at the high school level or above."



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    Re: Manhattan's Masiello Possibly Without ANY Job

    I'm not sure that this story is related to this thread or not, but I would like to share this story...
    My father was president of a bank in Ames in the 1980's. ISU was looking to rework their business program so he was asked to sit on an advisory committee that would create a new business major. At the end of the process, ISU wanted to give the members of that committee an honorary doctorate. My dad asked if it was a problem that he did not have a college degree. School officials were shocked that they had taken advice from someone without a college degree. They offered a degree based on experiential experience. My father declined, saying that he didn't want it unless he earned it.
    I guess my point is, you don't need that piece of paper to prove what you know or what you can do. You should, however, be proud of who you are, what you have done, and where you have come from. Anyone who lies about accomplishments should not get what they want.



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    Re: Manhattan's Masiello Possibly Without ANY Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Luth4Cy View Post
    This should answer that question, although I'm sure the lying would have hurt even if a college degree wasn't required.

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...o-lying-resume

    According to the job description posted by USF, the head coaching job "requires a Master's degree in an appropriate area of specialization and six years of coaching experience at the high school level or above; or a bachelor's degree in an appropriate area of specialization and eight years experience at the high school level or above."
    Thanks, I think I read an earlier version that didn't have that info. But yeah, the lying didn't help him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JP4CY View Post
    After this guy, no coach should embellish their resume:

    that was the problem; had him listed as a reference.




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    http://espn.go.com/new-york/mens-col...steve-masiello

    Looks like he is being retained. I guess he wont be leaving this school for a while.



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    Re: Manhattan's Masiello Possibly Without ANY Job

    Can he get a fifth year after he graduates in two months?


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    Re: Manhattan's Masiello Possibly Without ANY Job

    This whole thing is hilarious. I picture him doing introductions the first day of class:

    Teacher--"Please go around the room and say your name and why you chose to take this class"
    Masiello-- "My name is Steve Masiello and I am taking this class because it is required for the degree I have been lying about having for the last 15 years, and if I don't pass this class I can no longer be paid several hundred thousands of dollars to coach basketball."



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