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    Michigan

    I don't get the #1 seed love for them. They win the B1G and have a chance to win the conf tournament and if they do, I suppose winning the both is a decent reason for a 1 seed.

    However, same record as ISU. ISU beat them head to head. Big 12 > B1G. ISU wins conf tournament. Undefeated out of conference. Ended up beating everyone on their schedule.

    Michigan lost to Iowa, ISU beat Iowa.

    ISU 8 RPI, Michigan 9
    ISU 12 BPI, Michigan 21

    ISU beats KU by 11 and then Baylor by 9 in the championship game.
    Mich beats Ind by 4, IL by 1 and OSU by 3.

    So I'm not saying ISU should be a 1 seed but I am scratching my head on how Mich get so much talk as a 1 seed? They don't pass the eye test, the logic test, or the stat test.

    Don't get it.



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    Re: Michigan

    There's no clear 4th 1 seed. We make as much sense as Michigan, Villanova, Louisville, but for whatever reason we have to earn it over the years. UVA should be more ticked than we are if they win today and Michigan gets the nod over them.

    I think there are 3 teams who have separated their season...and about 8 teams that should be two seed equally. One will get a #1 and some will get 3s.



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    Re: Michigan

    They won a very strong conference by 3 games, and if they win the tourney too, they are as good as anyone. Seems to me like it is between them and Virginia depending on who wins today. I wouldn't argue with either (but I am pulling for Michigan as it gives us a win against a one seed and helps our resume for a two).



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    Re: Michigan

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    There's no clear 4th 1 seed. We make as much sense as Michigan, Villanova, Louisville, but for whatever reason we have to earn it over the years. UVA should be more ticked than we are if they win today and Michigan gets the nod over them.

    I think there are 3 teams who have separated their season...and about 8 teams that should be two seed equally. One will get a #1 and some will get 3s.
    Excellent analysis of the situation.



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    Re: Michigan

    I thought maybe that whipping we took at WV is playing a factor but then I realized UVA only put up 38pts in a lost to WI early in the year.

    Also, UVA is 294th in ppg, 140th in rebounds, 125th in assists and 122nd in FG pct. They don't pass the stat test in my mind.

    As far as ACC vs Big 12 KU beat Duke by 11 earlier this year. (Duke also beat Mich by 10) ACC may be over rated based on history.



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    Re: Michigan

    I would be ticket if i were louisville. They are the defending champ. Regardless of the sos. They played a decent schedule and are killing teams right now.


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    Re: Michigan

    The media is infatuated with the BigTen, basically in all sports. It's simple bias, probably due to the major media markets in their footprint. It's pandering, and comes off as self-love.



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    Re: Michigan

    Of all the teams being discussed for the final #1 seed, I have the least problems giving it to Michigan, especially if they beat Michigan St this afternoon. I mean, who else deserves it? Villanova got punked in their tournament, Kansas got beat by us and is without a key player, Wisconsin lost, Duke doesn't really deserve it, Iowa St is a straight homer pick. Besides Michigan, whom else?


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    Re: Michigan

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Of all the teams being discussed for the final #1 seed, I have the least problems giving it to Michigan, especially if they beat Michigan St this afternoon. I mean, who else deserves it? Villanova got punked in their tournament, Kansas got beat by us and is without a key player, Wisconsin lost, Duke doesn't really deserve it, Iowa St is a straight homer pick. Besides Michigan, whom else?
    I agree with Louisville for a #1 but I guess the bigger issue is how do we get a #3 if Mich is the 4th #1? At least we deserve a 2.



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    Re: Michigan

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    They won a very strong conference by 3 games, and if they win the tourney too, they are as good as anyone. Seems to me like it is between them and Virginia depending on who wins today. I wouldn't argue with either (but I am pulling for Michigan as it gives us a win against a one seed and helps our resume for a two).
    The spread over the second conference team is incredibly overrated.
    If they are going to discount KU without Embiid, are they going to discount Michigan's win(s) against MSU? Or Wisconsin's win against a Florida team that did not have Wilbekin, Finney-Smith, Yeguete, and Chris Walker?



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    Re: Michigan

    Quote Originally Posted by oldwiseman View Post
    I don't get the #1 seed love for them. They win the B1G and have a chance to win the conf tournament and if they do, I suppose winning the both is a decent reason for a 1 seed.

    However, same record as ISU. ISU beat them head to head. Big 12 > B1G. ISU wins conf tournament. Undefeated out of conference. Ended up beating everyone on their schedule.

    Michigan lost to Iowa, ISU beat Iowa.

    ISU 8 RPI, Michigan 9
    ISU 12 BPI, Michigan 21

    ISU beats KU by 11 and then Baylor by 9 in the championship game.
    Mich beats Ind by 4, IL by 1 and OSU by 3.

    So I'm not saying ISU should be a 1 seed but I am scratching my head on how Mich get so much talk as a 1 seed? They don't pass the eye test, the logic test, or the stat test.

    Don't get it.
    If they win today they would have won the conference season and the conference tournament. We beat them at home, I know, but winning a conference regular season in a good conference carries a lot of weight with me. I have no problem with it.

    Also, just because talking heads are talking about them as a #1 seed doesn't mean the committee is quite as sure.



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    Re: Michigan

    Win the second best conf by 2 games and the conf tourney, you deserve a #1 seed.



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    Re: Michigan

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    I would be ticket if i were louisville. They are the defending champ. Regardless of the sos. They played a decent schedule and are killing teams right now.

    How do those go together?


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    Re: Michigan

    Quote Originally Posted by oldwiseman View Post
    I agree with Louisville for a #1 but I guess the bigger issue is how do we get a #3 if Mich is the 4th #1? At least we deserve a 2.
    Why would you agree with Louisville? They have a worse resume than anyone in this discussion.


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    Re: Michigan

    I don't think that the outcome of today's game will have any effect. From the game's end until the bracket announcement is only a couple hours. I don't think the committee is still discussing 1 vs. 2 seeds that close to the announcement.



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