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    Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    Per VegasInsider.com.

    http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-...dds/las-vegas/

    Notable too that Kansas at Oklahoma State is a PK.



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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    I would be very leery if ISU was favored in this game.



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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    That's fair. I don't have a feel for this game at all.
    I don't expect more than a 3 point game either way.


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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    I'm surprised it is only a point. I figured KSU would be at the very least a 3-point favorite.



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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    I'm surprised it is only a point. I figured KSU would be at the very least a 3-point favorite.
    Me too. Afterall they are 7-0 at home in conference play including wins over KU, UT, OU and OSU.


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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    I'm surprised it is only a point. I figured KSU would be at the very least a 3-point favorite.
    kenpom as KSU by 2.
    sagarin actually has ISU by 0.5



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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    I know teamrankings gives us 56% odds to win. I thought it was a pickem or maybe even us favored by 1.

    Vegas seems to have been big fans of ISU all year long with some favorable lines.



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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    Personally I think the tight spread is simply a factor of how good ISU matches up with K-State. K-State isn't very big in the post... neither is ISU. K-State isn't explosive on offense as they average 69 points per game... ISU is explosive on offense and have scored at least 70 points in every game this season leading to an average of 83.6 points per game.

    I think there are a lot of areas where ISU has a significant advantage on K-State. If ISU can dictate the tempo and they play their game I don't think K-State can beat them tomorrow.



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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonestate78 View Post
    Personally I think the tight spread is simply a factor of how good ISU matches up with K-State. K-State isn't very big in the post... neither is ISU. K-State isn't explosive on offense as they average 69 points per game... ISU is explosive on offense and have scored at least 70 points in every game this season leading to an average of 83.6 points per game.

    I think there are a lot of areas where ISU has a significant advantage on K-State. If ISU can dictate the tempo and they play their game I don't think K-State can beat them tomorrow.
    FH has won 5/6 vs KSU as well I believe.



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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonestate78 View Post
    Personally I think the tight spread is simply a factor of how good ISU matches up with K-State. K-State isn't very big in the post... neither is ISU. K-State isn't explosive on offense as they average 69 points per game... ISU is explosive on offense and have scored at least 70 points in every game this season leading to an average of 83.6 points per game.

    I think there are a lot of areas where ISU has a significant advantage on K-State. If ISU can dictate the tempo and they play their game I don't think K-State can beat them tomorrow.
    Let's not ignore that ISU is giving up an average of 80.5 points per game (in regulation) on the road in conference play while KSU only gives up 61.4 (in regulation) at home in conference play.

    This should be a dogfight.


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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    The CF bus for the win....good luck charm....


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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused View Post
    FH has won 5/6 vs KSU as well I believe.
    ISU has a style of play that K-State simply can't match offensively. If ISU can play solid on D K-State simply doesn't have the offensive firepower to stay with them. Have Monte shadowing Spradling on the perimeter and do a decent job defending Foster and who on K-State's roster is going to beat you? Nobody.



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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    Let's not ignore that ISU is giving up an average of 80.5 points per game (in regulation) on the road in conference play while KSU only gives up about 61 (in regulation) at home in conference play.

    This should be a dogfight.
    Obviously ISU plays at a much faster pace so both stats are not that important. I would guess ISU is scoring more PPP and playing better defense PPP wise though as ISU is ranked pretty highly in both.



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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    Let's not ignore that ISU is giving up an average of 80.5 points per game (in regulation) on the road in conference play while KSU only gives up 61.4 (in regulation) at home in conference play.

    This should be a dogfight.
    Those are great defensive stats for K-State at home. The only problem is that K-State hasn't faced the Cyclones in the Octagon of Dumb yet.



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    Re: Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

    Dam. Wish I was in Vegas. I would put 10k down on KSU -1. This team couldnt win at Texas or OU. No way in heck are they winning at KSU.



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