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    is it just me or does this team

    have zero offensive game between the paint and the 3pt line? watching us play OU, OSU and now WVU, it became clear that we almost never shoot a mid range jumper, and rarely ever actually make them when we do.

    i guess it doesn't matter as long as we win. just doesn't seem like we even try the mid range game.



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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    It's by design.



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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    That's the worst shot in basketball.



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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    An 18 foot jumper is the lowest percentage shot in basketball. Fred doesn't want his guys shooting those.



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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    That's the worst shot in basketball.
    This. A mid-range shot is statistically a terrible shot to attempt. 3 pointers and in the paint are where you get the most bang for your buck.


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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    Expected value on an 18 foot jump shot is way lower than either a layup or a 3 point shot. It's not a lower percentage shot than a 3 pointer but it's expected value is lower.



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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    Quote Originally Posted by theyork View Post
    have zero offensive game between the paint and the 3pt line? watching us play OU, OSU and now WVU, it became clear that we almost never shoot a mid range jumper, and rarely ever actually make them when we do.i guess it doesn't matter as long as we win. just doesn't seem like we even try the mid range game.
    Hoiberg has made it clear he isn't a fan of those shots so it's not that surprising we don't shoot many.



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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    On the contrary, our opponents shoot a lot of mid-range shots and I'm glad we have forced them to take those. I never mind giving up a long range two.



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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    I would have liked Long to pull up at the elbow or even a little closer rather than trying to go the rim on his drives. Getting to the rim isn't his game IMO.


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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    3 pointers and layups. Fred's recipe for success.


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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    I'm pretty sure we took plenty against OSU, especially in OT when we absolutely needed points



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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    Quote Originally Posted by Incyte View Post
    I would have liked Long to pull up at the elbow or even a little closer rather than trying to go the rim on his drives. Getting to the rim isn't his game IMO.
    He didn't choose the best of times to drive in, the paint was pretty crowded on his drives.

    He needs to decide between taking it all the way to the rim or doing a jump stop pull up when he gets in close. He seems to put up the shot from too far away for how fast he is still moving on his drive.



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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    If we were taking shots between the paint and the 3 point line, you'd be complaining about why this team doesn't either try to drive it in under the basket, or take it out for the 3.



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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    Quote Originally Posted by CoKane View Post
    I'm pretty sure we took plenty against OSU, especially in OT when we absolutely needed points
    Not really, according to the ESPN shot chart NCAAM Gamecast - Iowa State vs Oklahoma State



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    Re: is it just me or does this team

    The mid-range jumper is the worst shot in basketball. I'm glad we don't take them.


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