Page 1 of 6 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 85
  1. #1
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 73,977, Level: 84
    Level completed: 49%, Points required for next Level: 873
    Overall activity: 16.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    peteypie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    4,231
    Points
    73,977
    Level
    84
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 716
    Given: 1,017

    Rothstein loves Kane

    And rightfully so. Kane is a huge part of this team, but to say we are an 11 or 12 win team without him is a bit ignorant I think. We would still have Ejim, Niang, and most importantly Hoiberg. No way in hell we only hypothetically win 11 or 12 games without him.

    Observations: BC win shows thin line between haves, have-nots - CBSSports.com


    3. Iowa State's DeAndre Kane should be Big 12 Player of the Year.
    And that's simply because the Cyclones would be an 11- or 12-win team without him. Kane has changed everything for Iowa State this season and he makes everyone else around him instantly better when he's at the point of attack and initiating offense. The fifth-year transfer is averaging 16.2 points, 6.6 rebounds, and 6.0 assists for the Cyclones, who will play in their third consecutive NCAA Tournament this March under Fred Hoiberg. The 6-4 Kane simply gets his teammates higher-percentage looks, and Melvin Ejim, Dustin Hogue, and Georges Niang all tremendously benefit from his presence. One could make a case for West Virginia's Juwan Staten or Kansas' Andrew Wiggins or Joel Embiid as the Big 12 Player of the Year, but Kane's overall impact has allowed Iowa State to become a nationally known team. Without Kane, the Cyclones wouldn't have been able to navigate the best conference in college basketball and frankly, they may not have had a chance. It's amazing how one player can make that much of a difference.


    Ill put any dollar that if I get this ball again, Long said, Its going in.
    - Naz Long to Markel Brown before hitting the game tying shot.

  2. #2
    Speechless
    Points: 350,979, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 20.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialYour first GroupRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Tre4ISU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Estherville
    Posts
    20,145
    Points
    350,979
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 982
    Given: 125

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Kane, Staten, Ejim. In that order IMO. It could go any way but I don't see anyone but one of those three being the winner. WIggins and Embiid are great neither is an important to their team as those three.


    It's all snark from here on out

  3. #3
    Speechless
    Points: 263,693, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 11.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience PointsCreated Album pictures
    BryceC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    17,084
    Points
    263,693
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 371
    Given: 0

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    I appreciate the praise but that is an absolute slap in the face to the other players on this team, and absolutely untrue as well.



  4. #4
    Walk On
    Points: 6,960, Level: 24
    Level completed: 82%, Points required for next Level: 90
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Created Album pictures1 year registered5000 Experience Points
    bsaltyman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ames, IA
    Posts
    222
    Points
    6,960
    Level
    24
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 53
    Given: 135

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Rothstein is an idiot if he isn't even mentioning Ejim as a Big 12 player of the year candidate. I would vote Ejim before anyone else.



  5. #5
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 70,947, Level: 82
    Level completed: 71%, Points required for next Level: 503
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Jordanj6502's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    3,817
    Points
    70,947
    Level
    82
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 86
    Given: 22

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    Kane, Staten, Ejim. In that order IMO. It could go any way but I don't see anyone but one of those three being the winner. WIggins and Embiid are great neither is an important to their team as those three.
    See. I think Ejim and Kane flip spots. And probably Wiggins put ahead of Kane. The award isn't MVP, but PotY, and Ejim's stats put him as the best in the conference.



  6. #6
    Addict
    Points: 115,925, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 43.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    6,266
    Points
    115,925
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 983
    Given: 60

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    I hope its Mel. But Kane deserves consideration too. Hope they don't split votes.



  7. #7
    Legend
    Points: 172,036, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 74.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Rhoadhoused's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Ames, IA
    Posts
    10,040
    Points
    172,036
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,066
    Given: 569

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Quote Originally Posted by BryceC View Post
    I appreciate the praise but that is an absolute slap in the face to the other players on this team, and absolutely untrue as well.
    That's completely absurd, I agree. I think our team would be fine with Morris at the point full time and Thomas or Long at SG. Just means a couple bench guys would have to step up. Now I'm not sure we would be a tourney team, but you're right that's a slap in the face.



  8. #8
    Pro
    Points: 45,144, Level: 65
    Level completed: 69%, Points required for next Level: 406
    Overall activity: 7.0%
    Achievements:
    25000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    3,249
    Points
    45,144
    Level
    65
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 155
    Given: 0

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Staten won't get it bc WVU isn't good enough. I think Kane, Ejim, Wiggins, Embiid are the most likely and I think if it ended right now it would be Ejim or Kane.



  9. #9
    Addict
    Points: 54,922, Level: 72
    Level completed: 59%, Points required for next Level: 628
    Overall activity: 17.0%
    Achievements:
    VeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    Final42b's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    5,033
    Points
    54,922
    Level
    72
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 408
    Given: 399

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    We would not be an 11 win team without him



  10. #10
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 73,977, Level: 84
    Level completed: 49%, Points required for next Level: 873
    Overall activity: 16.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    peteypie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    4,231
    Points
    73,977
    Level
    84
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 716
    Given: 1,017

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Let's remember Hoiberg won 16 games his first year with much less talent (even if you take away Kane) IMO.


    Ill put any dollar that if I get this ball again, Long said, Its going in.
    - Naz Long to Markel Brown before hitting the game tying shot.

  11. #11
    Pro
    Points: 41,049, Level: 62
    Level completed: 54%, Points required for next Level: 601
    Overall activity: 18.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Psiclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Corvallis, OR
    Posts
    2,199
    Points
    41,049
    Level
    62
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 313
    Given: 402

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    Kane, Staten, Ejim. In that order IMO. It could go any way but I don't see anyone but one of those three being the winner. WIggins and Embiid are great neither is an important to their team as those three.
    Kane and Ejim could split the votes allowing someone else to win.


    "Of course the people don't want war ... the people can always be brought to do the bidding of the leaders. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger."
    -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

  12. #12
    Addict
    Points: 104,353, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 37.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    acgclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    7,700
    Points
    104,353
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 788
    Given: 165

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Quote Originally Posted by peteypie View Post
    Let's remember Hoiberg won 16 games his first year with much less talent (even if you take away Kane) IMO.
    Our schedule was way tougher this year though, both OOC and the B12. Getting to 16 without Kane would have been a great over/under IMO.



  13. #13
    All-Star
    Points: 32,312, Level: 55
    Level completed: 33%, Points required for next Level: 738
    Overall activity: 7.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    kentkel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Grinnell
    Posts
    1,571
    Points
    32,312
    Level
    55
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 425
    Given: 736

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    If KU wins the Big XII again (very likely), I'm afraid that either Wiggins or Embiid get POY. I believe the voters will be sucked into the mindset that you have to reward the best team with a POY award. I hope not, 'cuz, based on his body of work thus far, Mel Mel deserves the award!


    Utah Utes, Illinois Illini. The University of Pennsylvania thought about following this pattern by calling themselves the Pennsylvania Pencils. However, they were afraid their students would start chanting "We're No. 2"

  14. #14
    All-Star
    Points: 22,636, Level: 46
    Level completed: 9%, Points required for next Level: 914
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    10000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Greensboro, NC
    Posts
    1,613
    Points
    22,636
    Level
    46
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 42
    Given: 7

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Armadi would make this a different team, Hoiberg would utilize his lineup accordingly. Kane and Ejim both should be in the running. I do feel they will take votes away from each other but so will Emblid and Wiggens.



  15. #15
    Asst. Regional Manager
    Points: 280,720, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 49.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    mj4cy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Ankeny
    Posts
    19,064
    Points
    280,720
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,831
    Given: 1,305

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    We would be a bubble team without Kane. Morris would be great facilitator and manage the game, but we'd lose a ton of offensive production without Kane.


    @RandomGeoFacts

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: TBD
  • FOOTBALL: Iowa State vs. UNI
  • August 29, 2015
  • 06:00 PM