Page 1 of 6 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 85
  1. #1
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 84,456, Level: 90
    Level completed: 40%, Points required for next Level: 1,094
    Overall activity: 5.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    peteypie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    4,939
    Points
    84,456
    Level
    90
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,312
    Given: 1,803

    Rothstein loves Kane

    And rightfully so. Kane is a huge part of this team, but to say we are an 11 or 12 win team without him is a bit ignorant I think. We would still have Ejim, Niang, and most importantly Hoiberg. No way in hell we only hypothetically win 11 or 12 games without him.

    Observations: BC win shows thin line between haves, have-nots - CBSSports.com


    3. Iowa State's DeAndre Kane should be Big 12 Player of the Year.
    And that's simply because the Cyclones would be an 11- or 12-win team without him. Kane has changed everything for Iowa State this season and he makes everyone else around him instantly better when he's at the point of attack and initiating offense. The fifth-year transfer is averaging 16.2 points, 6.6 rebounds, and 6.0 assists for the Cyclones, who will play in their third consecutive NCAA Tournament this March under Fred Hoiberg. The 6-4 Kane simply gets his teammates higher-percentage looks, and Melvin Ejim, Dustin Hogue, and Georges Niang all tremendously benefit from his presence. One could make a case for West Virginia's Juwan Staten or Kansas' Andrew Wiggins or Joel Embiid as the Big 12 Player of the Year, but Kane's overall impact has allowed Iowa State to become a nationally known team. Without Kane, the Cyclones wouldn't have been able to navigate the best conference in college basketball and frankly, they may not have had a chance. It's amazing how one player can make that much of a difference.


    Ill put any dollar that if I get this ball again, Long said, Its going in.
    - Naz Long to Markel Brown before hitting the game tying shot.

  2. #2
    Speechless
    Points: 366,399, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 26.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialYour first GroupRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Tre4ISU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Estherville
    Posts
    21,528
    Points
    366,399
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,851
    Given: 202

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Kane, Staten, Ejim. In that order IMO. It could go any way but I don't see anyone but one of those three being the winner. WIggins and Embiid are great neither is an important to their team as those three.


    It's all snark from here on out

  3. #3
    Speechless
    Points: 268,831, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience PointsCreated Album pictures
    BryceC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    17,412
    Points
    268,831
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 546
    Given: 0

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    I appreciate the praise but that is an absolute slap in the face to the other players on this team, and absolutely untrue as well.



  4. #4
    Bench Warmer
    Points: 10,985, Level: 31
    Level completed: 63%, Points required for next Level: 265
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Created Album picturesVeteran10000 Experience Points
    bsaltyman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Ames, IA
    Posts
    242
    Points
    10,985
    Level
    31
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 82
    Given: 146

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Rothstein is an idiot if he isn't even mentioning Ejim as a Big 12 player of the year candidate. I would vote Ejim before anyone else.



  5. #5
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 81,659, Level: 88
    Level completed: 84%, Points required for next Level: 291
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Jordanj6502's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    4,071
    Points
    81,659
    Level
    88
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 143
    Given: 60

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    Kane, Staten, Ejim. In that order IMO. It could go any way but I don't see anyone but one of those three being the winner. WIggins and Embiid are great neither is an important to their team as those three.
    See. I think Ejim and Kane flip spots. And probably Wiggins put ahead of Kane. The award isn't MVP, but PotY, and Ejim's stats put him as the best in the conference.



  6. #6
    Addict
    Points: 130,610, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 57.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    8,220
    Points
    130,610
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2,050
    Given: 287

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    I hope its Mel. But Kane deserves consideration too. Hope they don't split votes.



  7. #7
    Legend
    Points: 185,594, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Rhoadhoused's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Ames, IA
    Posts
    11,000
    Points
    185,594
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,416
    Given: 734

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Quote Originally Posted by BryceC View Post
    I appreciate the praise but that is an absolute slap in the face to the other players on this team, and absolutely untrue as well.
    That's completely absurd, I agree. I think our team would be fine with Morris at the point full time and Thomas or Long at SG. Just means a couple bench guys would have to step up. Now I'm not sure we would be a tourney team, but you're right that's a slap in the face.



  8. #8
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 50,536, Level: 69
    Level completed: 57%, Points required for next Level: 614
    Overall activity: 24.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    3,974
    Points
    50,536
    Level
    69
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 392
    Given: 1

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Staten won't get it bc WVU isn't good enough. I think Kane, Ejim, Wiggins, Embiid are the most likely and I think if it ended right now it would be Ejim or Kane.



  9. #9
    Addict
    Points: 58,402, Level: 74
    Level completed: 91%, Points required for next Level: 148
    Overall activity: 5.0%
    Achievements:
    VeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    Final42b's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    5,214
    Points
    58,402
    Level
    74
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 496
    Given: 490

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    We would not be an 11 win team without him



  10. #10
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 84,456, Level: 90
    Level completed: 40%, Points required for next Level: 1,094
    Overall activity: 5.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    peteypie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    4,939
    Points
    84,456
    Level
    90
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,312
    Given: 1,803

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Let's remember Hoiberg won 16 games his first year with much less talent (even if you take away Kane) IMO.


    Ill put any dollar that if I get this ball again, Long said, Its going in.
    - Naz Long to Markel Brown before hitting the game tying shot.

  11. #11
    Pro
    Points: 46,753, Level: 66
    Level completed: 86%, Points required for next Level: 197
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Psiclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Corvallis, OR
    Posts
    2,422
    Points
    46,753
    Level
    66
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 412
    Given: 507

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    Kane, Staten, Ejim. In that order IMO. It could go any way but I don't see anyone but one of those three being the winner. WIggins and Embiid are great neither is an important to their team as those three.
    Kane and Ejim could split the votes allowing someone else to win.


    "Of course the people don't want war ... the people can always be brought to do the bidding of the leaders. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger."
    -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

  12. #12
    Addict
    Points: 116,832, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 41.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    acgclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    9,299
    Points
    116,832
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,675
    Given: 273

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Quote Originally Posted by peteypie View Post
    Let's remember Hoiberg won 16 games his first year with much less talent (even if you take away Kane) IMO.
    Our schedule was way tougher this year though, both OOC and the B12. Getting to 16 without Kane would have been a great over/under IMO.



  13. #13
    Pro
    Points: 70,451, Level: 82
    Level completed: 42%, Points required for next Level: 999
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    kentkel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Grinnell
    Posts
    2,056
    Points
    70,451
    Level
    82
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 936
    Given: 1,626

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    If KU wins the Big XII again (very likely), I'm afraid that either Wiggins or Embiid get POY. I believe the voters will be sucked into the mindset that you have to reward the best team with a POY award. I hope not, 'cuz, based on his body of work thus far, Mel Mel deserves the award!


    "The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese."

  14. #14
    All-Star
    Points: 23,824, Level: 47
    Level completed: 28%, Points required for next Level: 726
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    10000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Greensboro, NC
    Posts
    1,655
    Points
    23,824
    Level
    47
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 55
    Given: 13

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Armadi would make this a different team, Hoiberg would utilize his lineup accordingly. Kane and Ejim both should be in the running. I do feel they will take votes away from each other but so will Emblid and Wiggens.



  15. #15
    Asst. Regional Manager
    Points: 319,835, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 28.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    mj4cy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Ankeny
    Posts
    21,513
    Points
    319,835
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3,275
    Given: 1,992

    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    We would be a bubble team without Kane. Morris would be great facilitator and manage the game, but we'd lose a ton of offensive production without Kane.


    @RandomGeoFacts

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: ESPNU
  • HOOPS: Iowa State @ Texas Tech
  • February 9, 2016
  • 08:00 PM