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    Rothstein loves Kane

    And rightfully so. Kane is a huge part of this team, but to say we are an 11 or 12 win team without him is a bit ignorant I think. We would still have Ejim, Niang, and most importantly Hoiberg. No way in hell we only hypothetically win 11 or 12 games without him.

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    3. Iowa State's DeAndre Kane should be Big 12 Player of the Year.
    And that's simply because the Cyclones would be an 11- or 12-win team without him. Kane has changed everything for Iowa State this season and he makes everyone else around him instantly better when he's at the point of attack and initiating offense. The fifth-year transfer is averaging 16.2 points, 6.6 rebounds, and 6.0 assists for the Cyclones, who will play in their third consecutive NCAA Tournament this March under Fred Hoiberg. The 6-4 Kane simply gets his teammates higher-percentage looks, and Melvin Ejim, Dustin Hogue, and Georges Niang all tremendously benefit from his presence. One could make a case for West Virginia's Juwan Staten or Kansas' Andrew Wiggins or Joel Embiid as the Big 12 Player of the Year, but Kane's overall impact has allowed Iowa State to become a nationally known team. Without Kane, the Cyclones wouldn't have been able to navigate the best conference in college basketball and frankly, they may not have had a chance. It's amazing how one player can make that much of a difference.


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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Kane, Staten, Ejim. In that order IMO. It could go any way but I don't see anyone but one of those three being the winner. WIggins and Embiid are great neither is an important to their team as those three.


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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    I appreciate the praise but that is an absolute slap in the face to the other players on this team, and absolutely untrue as well.



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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Rothstein is an idiot if he isn't even mentioning Ejim as a Big 12 player of the year candidate. I would vote Ejim before anyone else.



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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    Kane, Staten, Ejim. In that order IMO. It could go any way but I don't see anyone but one of those three being the winner. WIggins and Embiid are great neither is an important to their team as those three.
    See. I think Ejim and Kane flip spots. And probably Wiggins put ahead of Kane. The award isn't MVP, but PotY, and Ejim's stats put him as the best in the conference.



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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    I hope its Mel. But Kane deserves consideration too. Hope they don't split votes.



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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Quote Originally Posted by BryceC View Post
    I appreciate the praise but that is an absolute slap in the face to the other players on this team, and absolutely untrue as well.
    That's completely absurd, I agree. I think our team would be fine with Morris at the point full time and Thomas or Long at SG. Just means a couple bench guys would have to step up. Now I'm not sure we would be a tourney team, but you're right that's a slap in the face.



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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Staten won't get it bc WVU isn't good enough. I think Kane, Ejim, Wiggins, Embiid are the most likely and I think if it ended right now it would be Ejim or Kane.



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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    We would not be an 11 win team without him



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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Let's remember Hoiberg won 16 games his first year with much less talent (even if you take away Kane) IMO.


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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    Kane, Staten, Ejim. In that order IMO. It could go any way but I don't see anyone but one of those three being the winner. WIggins and Embiid are great neither is an important to their team as those three.
    Kane and Ejim could split the votes allowing someone else to win.


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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Quote Originally Posted by peteypie View Post
    Let's remember Hoiberg won 16 games his first year with much less talent (even if you take away Kane) IMO.
    Our schedule was way tougher this year though, both OOC and the B12. Getting to 16 without Kane would have been a great over/under IMO.



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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    If KU wins the Big XII again (very likely), I'm afraid that either Wiggins or Embiid get POY. I believe the voters will be sucked into the mindset that you have to reward the best team with a POY award. I hope not, 'cuz, based on his body of work thus far, Mel Mel deserves the award!


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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    Armadi would make this a different team, Hoiberg would utilize his lineup accordingly. Kane and Ejim both should be in the running. I do feel they will take votes away from each other but so will Emblid and Wiggens.



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    Re: Rothstein loves Kane

    We would be a bubble team without Kane. Morris would be great facilitator and manage the game, but we'd lose a ton of offensive production without Kane.


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