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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    Can the Theo bashers finally see the forest and not just the trees?

    Prospects do wash out at a high rate, but this is as impressive a list of players in the Cubs farm system as could be imagined.

    If....BIG if...this group moves together into Wrigley and wins a title then Theo is the best executive in any major sport. Maybe one of the best ever if this talent emerges from the Cubs (yes CUBS!) farm system and wins a title.

    The future is bright, but still a few years off. 2017 could be fun



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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    Building up the Cubs' farm system is absolutely important. Can't buy titles anymore. Their best season in recent memory (2003) was mostly a result of a strong farm system. That system was depleted through trades and never rebuilt until now.



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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    Theo is doing a great job at acquiring talent. I hear Cub fans complaining they didn't get a top pitching prospect which I can understand but talent is talent. The plan is to acquire as much talent as possible and trade to fill in the gaps. Having 1 very good SS in the majors and two more elite prospects at the same position is not a bad thing. Perhaps Baez doesn't pan out? Addison steps in. Or just move Castro/Addison/Baez to another position--not unheard of. I hear the Cubs are already in talks with the Mets and Marlins about swapping minor leaguers (Cubs get pitchers and Mets/Marlins get position players).



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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue52 View Post
    Building up the Cubs' farm system is absolutely important. Can't buy titles anymore. Their best season in recent memory (2003) was mostly a result of a strong farm system. That system was depleted through trades and never rebuilt until now.
    I'm pretty sure the only position players from 2003 who came through the Cubs farm system was Choi and Patterson, and neither of them played in the playoffs. Obviously Wood, Prior and Zambrano came through he system, but I think its a stretch to say 2003 was the result of a strong farm system. 2003 was more a result of great FA and trade moves. Also, the 2008 Cubs were better then the 2003 Cubs, IMO.



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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    Hee sop choi... man oh man.



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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    So what does the pitching staff look like for the rest of the year?


    Let my Fred's Posse Ride: Georges, Naz, Hogue, Bryce, Nader, Monte, Matt, and McKay.

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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    So what does the pitching staff look like for the rest of the year?
    Sounds like it will be Jackson, Wood, Arrieta, Rusin, and Wada.



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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    The Pirates and Cubs look like they're stacked with young talent that could someday contend for the NL Central for a decade. Feels weird to type that last sentence, but from a non-Cub fan that's how I feel. Pittsburgh might have the most dynamic outfield in MLB as soon as next season.



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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyFive View Post
    The Pirates and Cubs look like they're stacked with young talent that could someday contend for the NL Central for a decade. Feels weird to type that last sentence, but from a non-Cub fan that's how I feel. Pittsburgh might have the most dynamic outfield in MLB as soon as next season.
    I agree. The big difference is that Chicago is top 3 market.They'll have the money to keep most of those home grown talents.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCaptain View Post
    I agree. The big difference is that Chicago is top 3 market.They'll have the money to keep most of those home grown talents.
    Yet the stadium is still small, Ricketts paid too much for the team, and WGN advertising of games is less.


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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    Really like the trade Theo did this time. He got 2 great players and 2 more bodies for a pitcher who was going to be a free agent at the end of the year and for Samardzija who's only under club control for another year. This is one of those deals that really was great for both sides.



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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    I love the deal. If you break it down, the Cubs got a consensus top 10 prospect for Shark, who isn't even a for sure "ace". He is a good to very good pitcher but I don't think he is a legit #1. And they got the A's second best prospect for Hammel who is an average starting pitcher over his career. Then throw in 2 additional players, including one who just finished 4th in Rookie of he Year voting 2 years ago, and Theo and Hoyer owned this deal.

    The Cubs now have the best farm system in baseball. They have 4 of the top 20-25 prospects plus up and comers like Almora and Soler. And I haven't even mentioned their first round pick from this years draft.

    I expect to see Bryant, Castro, Baez and Rizzo be the Cubs starting infield in 2015 with Lake, Alcantara and TBD roaming the outfield. I really hope the Cubs target both Price and Lester in the offseason and land at least one of them. That team could contend for a playoff spot right away next year if they add some pitching.



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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Section136 View Post
    I love the deal. If you break it down, the Cubs got a consensus top 10 prospect for Shark, who isn't even a for sure "ace". He is a good to very good pitcher but I don't think he is a legit #1. And they got the A's second best prospect for Hammel who is an average starting pitcher over his career. Then throw in 2 additional players, including one who just finished 4th in Rookie of he Year voting 2 years ago, and Theo and Hoyer owned this deal.

    The Cubs now have the best farm system in baseball. They have 4 of the top 20-25 prospects plus up and comers like Almora and Soler. And I haven't even mentioned their first round pick from this years draft.

    I expect to see Bryant, Castro, Baez and Rizzo be the Cubs starting infield in 2015 with Lake, Alcantara and TBD roaming the outfield. I really hope the Cubs target both Price and Lester in the offseason and land at least one of them. That team could contend for a playoff spot right away next year if they add some pitching.
    It will be interesting the see what the Cubs do yet this season/next of season. Barney, Valbuena, Coghlan, and Ruggiano are all due for arbitration going into 2015.



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    Re: 2014 Chicago Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    It will be interesting the see what the Cubs do yet this season/next of season. Barney, Valbuena, Coghlan, and Ruggiano are all due for arbitration going into 2015.
    We could probably trade Barney, Valbuena, and Coghlan as a package and receive a pack of gum and that would be considered a steal for us.

    Ruggiano could actually be dealt before the deadline. He'd be a good 4th outfielder for a team. Has some good pop in his bat and a good batting average. May need to cute down the K's a bit, (averages 1 strikeout/4 AB's) but would be a good asset to an organization and could get us a reliever or potential reliever in return.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCubswin View Post
    We could probably trade Barney, Valbuena, and Coghlan as a package and receive a pack of gum and that would be considered a steal for us.

    Ruggiano could actually be dealt before the deadline. He'd be a good 4th outfielder for a team. Has some good pop in his bat and a good batting average. May need to cute down the K's a bit, (averages 1 strikeout/4 AB's) but would be a good asset to an organization and could get us a reliever or potential reliever in return.
    Yeah, the good thing is the Cubs can offer them fair market one year contracts and probably avoid arbitration. None the less, I expect most of them to be on the roster next year. I agree with Ruggiano, but think Valbuena could also get dealt as well.



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