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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by HerkClone View Post
    You're probably right. They beat Kansas State last year. We didnt.
    Yeah. It's a good idea to compare two programs on two different levels of competition by using one game in the history of both programs. Let's also ignore the fact that ISU beat them in 2009. Nice try, Hawk.



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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Using Lakes approach.... We are a better football program than Kansas State... And since we are undefeated against NDSU.... We are a superior program to them too.

    So, NDSU winning in Ames would be a huge upset.


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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by CyDude16 View Post
    Lol maybe one game a season, or Mac/sun belt. You're a buffoon if you think Ndsu or uni could could even do any sort of damage in the power 5 on a week key basis.
    A loss is a loss. And when they consistently beat lower level FBS programs on the road, it is certainly fair to say they are "in their league"

    Remember, those lower level powere 5 teams they are beating arent "doing any sort of damage on a week to week basis" either. You get that, right?

    But you also have to remember NDSU went into Manhattan and beat the defending b12 champs.

    Listen, I have a ton of respect for the Bison and what they have accomplished over the decades. Yes, decades. iSU fans, of all folks should be showing them respect.



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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by keepngoal View Post
    Using Lakes approach.... We are a better football program than Kansas State... And since we are undefeated against NDSU.... We are a superior program to them too.

    So, NDSU winning in Ames would be a huge upset.
    It would be an upset. Yes. Huge? Not really. Its old hat for them.

    Again, doesnt mean they will beat us, as they lost alot from their team last year. But it wouldnt be HUGE



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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by lakesbison View Post
    NDSU in last 3 years has finished top 40 sagarin/massey ratings and even received votes the last 3 years. I defend our program all day, everyday...even if the people I'm arguing with don't even really care

    Edited above for accuracy.



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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by HerkClone View Post
    A loss is a loss. And when they consistently beat lower level FBS programs on the road, it is certainly fair to say they are "in their league"

    Remember, those lower level powere 5 teams they are beating arent "doing any sort of damage on a week to week basis" either. You get that, right?

    But you also have to remember NDSU went into Manhattan and beat the defending b12 champs.

    Listen, I have a ton of respect for the Bison and what they have accomplished over the decades. Yes, decades. iSU fans, of all folks should be showing them respect.
    Do you understand the difference between preparing for one game as opposed to do it weekly? Please explain why wvu, tcu, Utah, etc. have struggled then? I respect Ndsu's accomplishments at the fcs level, but if you honestly believe they could do damage weekly in power 5 conferences, you are either trolling or dropped on your head as a baby multiple times.


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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by HerkClone View Post
    It would be an upset. Yes. Huge? Not really. Its old hat for them.

    Again, doesnt mean they will beat us, as they lost alot from their team last year. But it wouldnt be HUGE
    Dont use us when talking about iowa state, herk. Thanks.



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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Once NDSU is fbs there will be 22 more scholarships. Think about it, NDSU is 7-3 vs FBS (9-1 if a late FG & block don't happen) with 22 less players and depth. So yea NDSU "program" is better than most



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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by lakesbison View Post
    Once NDSU is fbs there will be 22 more scholarships. Think about it, NDSU is 7-3 vs FBS (9-1 if a late FG & block don't happen) with 22 less players and depth. So yea NDSU "program" is better than most
    Well, by the time NDSU makes the jump, the Power 5 will have split from everyone else. So NDSU will still be in the little boys club...



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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by HerkClone View Post
    JUCO team? Im not sure we are in a position to be mocking a program with their track record.
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    You're probably right. They beat Kansas State last year. We didnt.
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    You are such a cry baby "ribs". Facts hurt.

    See you at the superbowl.
    Quote Originally Posted by HerkClone View Post
    It would be an upset. Yes. Huge? Not really. Its old hat for them.

    Again, doesnt mean they will beat us, as they lost alot from their team last year. But it wouldnt be HUGE
    Not only are you a hawk fan, but you are just a dumb hawk fan. You changed identities within a few posts of each other.


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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by lakesbison View Post
    Once NDSU is fbs there will be 22 more scholarships. Think about it, NDSU is 7-3 vs FBS (9-1 if a late FG & block don't happen) with 22 less players and depth. So yea NDSU "program" is better than most

    Except your only chance would be the Mac conference or maybe mountain west if your dream ever came to fruition. Iowa state has a winning record again kstate, doesn't mean were a better program.



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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    I refuse to denigrate their program as it is sound. I just don't believe we will lose to them. There is enormous incentive for FCS players to demonstrate that their abilities are equal to their larger class counterparts. The reverse of this rationale is often dangerously present in those competing for an FBS team.

    In the case of NDSU lack of talent is likely not the reason for some of their gifted players being ignored by D1 programs. Since coach Bohl was a disciple of Tom Osborne, I suspect that like Osborne, Bohl had no problem with the practice of recruiting Prop 48, partial qualifiers; now referred to as non-predictors, academic risks.



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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyru View Post
    I refuse to denigrate their program as it is sound. I just don't believe we will lose to them. There is enormous incentive for FCS players to demonstrate that their abilities are equal to their larger class counterparts. The reverse of this rationale is often dangerously present in those competing for an FBS team.

    In the case of NDSU lack of talent is likely not the reason for some of their gifted players being ignored by D1 programs. Since coach Bohl was a disciple of Tom Osborne, I suspect that like Osborne, Bohl had no problem with the practice of recruiting Prop 48, partial qualifiers; now referred to as non-predictors, academic risks.

    So, people that go to NDSU are to stupid to get into a real school? I think, based on months of observing Lakes...that's probably true.



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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by lakesbison View Post
    Once NDSU is fbs there will be 22 more scholarships. Think about it, NDSU is 7-3 vs FBS (9-1 if a late FG & block don't happen) with 22 less players and depth. So yea NDSU "program" is better than most
    btw your coach left ndsu for wyoming....


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    Re: NDSU BISON @ Iowa State University Cyclones

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddykane View Post
    btw your coach left ndsu for wyoming....
    And their AD left for a lesser job at Iowa.



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