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    Re: Player development under CFH

    Quote Originally Posted by Thompsonclone View Post
    Really hoping Dorsey-Walker makes that jump like Naz did. The potential is there. IMO he just needs minutes. I think he could be scoring about the same as Naz if he played the same amount of minutes.
    Agree with this - I think when Sherron does get in the game, he looks to make his mark immediately. This is understandable as it shows he wants to earn more playing time; he just seems to push a little too hard at the moment which can get him yanked from the game.

    That said, the past few games he has really started to let things come to him, which coincides with him getting minutes that aren't garbage time. I hope he sticks with us for the long haul, he has a ton of potential.


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    Re: Player development under CFH

    Quote Originally Posted by Tedcyclone View Post
    All coaches in all sports should follow his lead... eh hmmm football ... He takes guys and lets the season play out to their individual and team strengths. He adapts to everything he has. Fred will always be successful doing that.
    The football team didn't do anything well enough this year to hang their hat on, offensive, defensive, or special teams. Hopefully, CPR can find that identity the way CFH has, because Fred's turned it into a calling card of sorts. A big plus for ISU basketball.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Die4Cy View Post
    The football team didn't do anything well enough this year to hang their hat on, offensive, defensive, or special teams. Hopefully, CPR can find that identity the way CFH has, because Fred's turned it into a calling card of sorts. A big plus for ISU basketball.
    This is so true. Maybe the tight end exceeded. JGeorge and JWashington made a lot of tackles. Kirby made some good runs. That was about it.


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    Re: Player development under CFH

    hey look, a positive basketball thread turned into a chance to bash the football team!

    This should be a drinking game.



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    Re: Player development under CFH

    Hoiberg took the 3rd best scorer from a Penn State squad that finished 7th in the Big 10 and made him one of the best defensive players in the Big 12 and was one day away from making an NBA roster. How crazy is that??



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    Re: Player development under CFH

    I've been impressed with the progression of high-level recruits. I think people forget, but Niang didn't start until the conference season. By the NCAA tournament, he was playing at an all-conference level.

    This year, we're only beginning to see the progression of Morris and Thomas. By the end of the season, I expect we'll be even more excited for the future of Cyclone basketball (hard to believe - I know).



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    Re: Player development under CFH

    Gibson never regressed. We just recruited over him. He is the same player he always was.



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    Re: Player development under CFH

    Other than Gibson, it has been great.

    Naz has improved his shot, but he would have looked a lot better last year if had gotten this many minutes at the 2 or 3 spots. Imo, he can be even better. He has the athleticism, shooting, and handle to be a hell of an off-guard. I really want to see him expand his all-around game as the season goes on.



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    Re: Player development under CFH

    Quote Originally Posted by Thompsonclone View Post
    Really hoping Dorsey-Walker makes that jump like Naz did. The potential is there. IMO he just needs minutes. I think he could be scoring about the same as Naz if he played the same amount of minutes.
    Hope you're right but they're both in their 2nd year here and Naz is well ahead of SDW imo and shows more potential. He's just a much stronger and better all around player imo.



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    Re: Player development under CFH

    Quote Originally Posted by Thompsonclone View Post
    Really hoping Dorsey-Walker makes that jump like Naz did. The potential is there. IMO he just needs minutes. I think he could be scoring about the same as Naz if he played the same amount of minutes.
    Not exactly sure why but I find myself really pulling for SDW when he gets in the game... I really like the way he plays, if gets a little stronger and more consistent he's gonna be stellar....



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    Re: Player development under CFH

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    Hope you're right but they're both in their 2nd year here and Naz is well ahead of SDW imo and shows more potential. He's just a much stronger and better all around player imo.
    Didn't SDW redshirt? Game time is huge when you get to this level. That's what Naz had coming into the year that SDW didn't. I also think that SDW isn't that far behind the others he just isn't the type that we need. He seems more of an all around where Naz is a 3pt specialist.



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    Re: Player development under CFH

    In the articles about Johnny Orr, a lot of former players talked about how he was always very supportive of his players, never calling them out for questionable shots or slip ups, but rather building confidence in them. That sounded REALLY familiar to one of the best coaches in college basketball today.



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    Re: Player development under CFH

    Quote Originally Posted by CychoCyclone View Post
    Not exactly sure why but I find myself really pulling for SDW when he gets in the game... I really like the way he plays, if gets a little stronger and more consistent he's gonna be stellar....
    Same. He gonna be good.



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    Re: Player development under CFH

    Quote Originally Posted by jkclone View Post
    Didn't SDW redshirt? Game time is huge when you get to this level. That's what Naz had coming into the year that SDW didn't. I also think that SDW isn't that far behind the others he just isn't the type that we need. He seems more of an all around where Naz is a 3pt specialist.
    True, SDW did redshirt, but then Naz played very few minutes and had BuBu not missed the first half of the year, Naz probably could have been red shirted too as he played so little. I just think if we get Vaughn, SDW will be competing against Vaughn, Thomas and Naz for minutes and I just don't see him taking them away from those guys. I don't see SDW having that kind of ability, but I may turn out to be dead wrong.



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    Re: Player development under CFH

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    Other than Gibson, it has been great.

    Naz has improved his shot, but he would have looked a lot better last year if had gotten this many minutes at the 2 or 3 spots. Imo, he can be even better. He has the athleticism, shooting, and handle to be a hell of an off-guard. I really want to see him expand his all-around game as the season goes on.
    Percy is better this year. Take a closer look. He passes more. He has some rebounds.


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