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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    I deciphered a Fair Play cipher from an original print of Twas the Night Before Christmas. In the second instance the list of the reindeer, Donder was listed as Donner, making the key-word "DONER." In that same second list, Vixen was misspelled Vixin. Normally, the misspelling would result in dropping the E from the fair play grid, but since E is part of the key-word, it became the I.

    I then took the first and last letters of each page in the story, and came up with this list: TU EX KS OR HA TX CK FY SR MZ XS JJ JB EU SR YE ME DT HF FN LR ES BE SR NV

    For those playing the home game, this, of course, resulted in the phrase "STNICKDEADSINCETUNGUSKAABORTUNTILREPLACEMENTFOUND, or St. Nick dead since Tunguska abort until replacement found.

    The Tunguska event (Tunguska event - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) is the largest earth or near-earth celestial impact recorded in modern history.

    This can only mean 1) St. Nick was involved in something beyond socialist redistribution experiments. 2) he crashed on June 30th (note how far from Christmas he was still active in his sleigh...) in 1908. 3) his superiors had placed a great deal of emphasis on his involvement, but he was still not irreplaceable.

    What is unclear is what Santa was doing over Russia on June 30th, 1908, whether St. Nick has been replaced yet, and if so, by who (or what...).

    But, what is clear is that St. Nick, if he is still active now, is not the same St. Nicolas that delivered christmas presents in 1907. Whether 1908 Santa was the original or one of a long line is unclear.

    So, I guess what I'm saying is: around 5 or 6 I sorta figured it out the same way most kids do.



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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    I was young. I was 5 when my brother (three years older) and older cousin told me in my parents garage. I acted like I didn't care but pretty sure I went and cried somewhere. Five is really young to be told isn't it? Maybe not. Pretty sure my younger sister didn't find out until she was like 9 or 10



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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    I have an 8 yr old and she has some friends whose parents don't believe in participating in the Santa thing (religous nuts.) It pisses me off to no end. One of the kids goes around like it's part of their religous duty telling other kids that Santa is fake and against Jesus. I mean, I wanted to confront one of the parents at the xmas concert but my wife threw fit about it.



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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    My son is ten and still "believes". My wife and I wonder if this is because he just wants to or if we are just too good selling it. His best friend doesn't believe and he knows that he doesn't. So why does my son still believe and how long do we have to find a place for the Elf on the Shelf? It sucks to go through the charade, but at the same time it's nice having a "little" one believing in the magic.



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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    I can't remember exactly how old I was, but my older brother one day near Easter told me to go walk in my Dad's office. I asked why and he said just do it. So I opened the door and saw my Dad filling up the Easter baskets. He tried covering it up quickly but wasn't fast enough. I walked out of the room stunned and in shock and my brother immediately said, "Yeah and you know Santa Claus? It's the same thing." I was pretty much reeling after that. It's forever etched in my memory.



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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Gnomeborg View Post
    I deciphered a Fair Play cipher from an original print of Twas the Night Before Christmas. In the second instance the list of the reindeer, Donder was listed as Donner, making the key-word "DONER." In that same second list, Vixen was misspelled Vixin. Normally, the misspelling would result in dropping the E from the fair play grid, but since E is part of the key-word, it became the I.

    I then took the first and last letters of each page in the story, and came up with this list: TU EX KS OR HA TX CK FY SR MZ XS JJ JB EU SR YE ME DT HF FN LR ES BE SR NV

    For those playing the home game, this, of course, resulted in the phrase "STNICKDEADSINCETUNGUSKAABORTUNTILREPLACEMENTFOUND, or St. Nick dead since Tunguska abort until replacement found.

    The Tunguska event (Tunguska event - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) is the largest earth or near-earth celestial impact recorded in modern history.

    This can only mean 1) St. Nick was involved in something beyond socialist redistribution experiments. 2) he crashed on June 30th (note how far from Christmas he was still active in his sleigh...) in 1908. 3) his superiors had placed a great deal of emphasis on his involvement, but he was still not irreplaceable.

    What is unclear is what Santa was doing over Russia on June 30th, 1908, whether St. Nick has been replaced yet, and if so, by who (or what...).

    But, what is clear is that St. Nick, if he is still active now, is not the same St. Nicolas that delivered christmas presents in 1907. Whether 1908 Santa was the original or one of a long line is unclear.

    So, I guess what I'm saying is: around 5 or 6 I sorta figured it out the same way most kids do.
    Wow!


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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    Once mom and dad told me Santa wasnt real, I made up my own christmas tradition of trying to find out what I was getting before christmas morning. Been doing it for the last 10 years or so. And I'm damn good at it. Checking every cupboard, drawer, under beds, on top shelves, and even checking their email history (for online orders). I have yet to get caught but I think they knew back when I was younger because hiding spots would contantly change. I have yet to find 100% of them in a year though



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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by stateofmind View Post
    My son is ten and still "believes". My wife and I wonder if this is because he just wants to or if we are just too good selling it. His best friend doesn't believe and he knows that he doesn't. So why does my son still believe and how long do we have to find a place for the Elf on the Shelf? It sucks to go through the charade, but at the same time it's nice having a "little" one believing in the magic.
    I was five when I caught my dad dressing up as Santa.

    I also struggle with the same thing as you. Part of me wishes the kids would find out so I don't have to deal with all the hiding and staying up late freaking out about getting caught. Placing the elf in the right positions and all that goes with it.

    Then I'm like I'm a selfish A-hole and the kids grow up so fast. Reality will hit them in the face before they know it so why not let them continue to believe. As long as they believe I will continue to do it.



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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by iacyguy View Post
    Once mom and dad told me Santa wasnt real, I made up my own christmas tradition of trying to find out what I was getting before christmas morning. Been doing it for the last 10 years or so. And I'm damn good at it. Checking every cupboard, drawer, under beds, on top shelves, and even checking their email history (for online orders). I have yet to get caught but I think they knew back when I was younger because hiding spots would contantly change. I have yet to find 100% of them in a year though
    You my friend are working to hard. I'd just unwrap them a little bit take a look and tape them back up. Then I was like this sure takes the fun out of it. Besides that I wanted to use or play with whatever it was so it just caused more anxiety.



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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Gnomeborg View Post
    I deciphered a Fair Play cipher from an original print of Twas the Night Before Christmas. In the second instance the list of the reindeer, Donder was listed as Donner, making the key-word "DONER." In that same second list, Vixen was misspelled Vixin. Normally, the misspelling would result in dropping the E from the fair play grid, but since E is part of the key-word, it became the I.

    I then took the first and last letters of each page in the story, and came up with this list: TU EX KS OR HA TX CK FY SR MZ XS JJ JB EU SR YE ME DT HF FN LR ES BE SR NV

    For those playing the home game, this, of course, resulted in the phrase "STNICKDEADSINCETUNGUSKAABORTUNTILREPLACEMENTFOUND, or St. Nick dead since Tunguska abort until replacement found.

    The Tunguska event (Tunguska event - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) is the largest earth or near-earth celestial impact recorded in modern history.

    This can only mean 1) St. Nick was involved in something beyond socialist redistribution experiments. 2) he crashed on June 30th (note how far from Christmas he was still active in his sleigh...) in 1908. 3) his superiors had placed a great deal of emphasis on his involvement, but he was still not irreplaceable.

    What is unclear is what Santa was doing over Russia on June 30th, 1908, whether St. Nick has been replaced yet, and if so, by who (or what...).

    But, what is clear is that St. Nick, if he is still active now, is not the same St. Nicolas that delivered christmas presents in 1907. Whether 1908 Santa was the original or one of a long line is unclear.

    So, I guess what I'm saying is: around 5 or 6 I sorta figured it out the same way most kids do.
    If you play "Frosty the Snowman" backwards it says "I buried Santa"


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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    I'm very curious when my boys will figure this out. My 6 year old is pretty smart so I'm guessing it will be within the next year or two. My 4 year old is more of a dreamer but his brother, the know it all, will probably ruin it for you.
    Smart kids know you get more stuff if you don't let the parents know you are onto them.



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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    I was in 3rd Grade, and wavering when I found out. The small town where I grew up was comprised of several of my dad's siblings (he was the middle of 14 kids) and their families (58 first-cousins on that side of the family). In the small elementary school where I went there were 5 of us cousins in my class, all just 4-months apart in age, which was pretty cool. One of these cousins was kind of an ***hole, who had older siblings who'd already ruined it for him so he thought he should ruin it for us. Leading up to Christmas he told us over and over that Santa was our parents and I just couldn't believe it. My folks handled it well when I confronted them about it, asking me what I thought and simply reinforcing my beliefs. I don't know if anyone is familiar with the "Alleman Towers" near Ankeny, or if they're even there still (the tall TV towers), but the local paper came the Tuesday after Christmas and showed CLEARLY Santa's sleigh flying away perfectly between those two towers on Christmas night!

    I was hooked right back into believing and cut out that section of the paper and carried it into Sunday School a few days later to show my cousin he was wrong! And there, right in the middle of the church on that Sunday morning my Sunday School teacher MURDERED Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy in a triple homicide. She tried to cover her crime by telling me about how Christmas was about Jesus, by I could only see her for the cold blooded woman she was. In fact, this may be a cathartic moment for me as I may have just figured out my ongoing distrust of women...



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    Re: When and how did you learn that there wasn't a Santa Claus, Easter Rabbit, etc

    A girl I work with told us the story about how she found out santa was fake while doing a report in 8th grade. She didn't believe the source, so she found another book.



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